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Georgetown University Law Student: It’s Not Fair We Have to Pay for Our Own Sex Lives; Updated





I heard about this today on the radio as I drove to class.  At first I thought it was another parody.  I was wrong, via Craig Bannister at CNS News:

A Georgetown co-ed told Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s hearing that the women in  her law school program are having so much sex that they’re going broke,  so you and I should pay for their birth control.

Speaking at a hearing held by Pelosi to tout Pres. Obama’s mandate  that virtually every health insurance plan cover the full cost of  contraception and abortion-inducing products, Georgetown law student  Sandra Fluke said that it’s too expensive to have sex in law school  without mandated insurance coverage.

Apparently, four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex that  it’s hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own  contraception, Fluke’s research shows.

"Forty percent of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to  us that they struggled financially as a result of this policy  (Georgetown student insurance not covering contraception), Fluke reported.

It costs a female student $3,000 to have protected sex over the  course of her three-year stint in law school, according to her  calculations.

"Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a  woman over $3,000 during law school," Fluke told the hearing.

Awww.  My heart’s all broken up over these poor, disadvantaged (but soon to be very wealthy) Georgetown Law School students.  To be subjected to the humiliation of having to pay for one’s own, er, college recreation is downright barbaric.  Somehow it has to be Bush’s fault.

This got me to thinking: I must have spent at least $10,000 during my college years on beer alone.  As a result, I most definitely "struggled financially" and found it "hard to make ends meet".  And I wasn’t alone.  I’d be willing to bet that at least "forty percent of the male students" at my university suffered through similar hardship.  With this in mind, I propose free beer for all college students.  Think of how much easier college life would be if students didn’t have to pay for their own extracurricular activities.  And as an added bonus, universities would be able to raise tuition more easily as students would have a lot more discretionary income available.  After all, beer is one of the biggest expenses one incurs at our institutions of higher learning.

The amorous Ms. Fluke, no doubt, has a bright future after law school. Expect her to be nominated for the SCOTUS in about thirty years.

Update: Tina Korbe at Hot Air makes a great point:

Again, contraception is not a necessity and fertility is not a disease. As plenty of folks have pointed out, contraception is, in fact, impossible to “insure,” as it’s impossible to “insure” against an expense that a person knows for a fact he or she will incur. In that case, it’s just an expense — and the person who’s gonna incur it should budget for it.

Having the personal responsibility to budget for predictable, elective expenses.  Imagine that.

Update II: In reading some of the comments, I fear some of our readers are missing the point. This is not what insurance is about. You can’t "insure" against events or costs that are certain to occur. Insurance is about risk management. There’s a reason, for example, that auto insurance doesn’t cover routine maintenance expenses such as new tires, brakes, oil changes, gasoline, etc. All car owners are certain to incur these costs and must budget for them accordingly.  If the government forced auto insurance companies to cover these costs, the cost of auto insurance would be astronomical, as it would have to be priced high enough to pay for the certainty of these inevitable expenses. Many people would need government subsidies to afford it. Kind of like…health care insurance.

If we accept Ms. Fluke’s numbers (I don’t), her premiums must rise by at least $1,000 per year to pay for this ($3,000/3 years). In reality, of course, the premiums would have to be higher than that as a certain amount would have to be allocated to cover the costs associated with administering the insurance policy.  For this reason, it would be cheaper for her to simply pay the $3,000 out of pocket.  Unless, of course, other policyholders pay for it through higher insurance premiums.  This, I suspect, is what she really wants.

More broadly, when the government forces health insurance companies to cover birth control pills (or anything else), all of us pay with higher insurance premiums, and an increasing number of people can’t afford them.  This is not a coincidence. It’s great that some "Cadillac" insurance plans cover a lot of things insurance plans have no business covering, but this necessarily means that everyone covered under the plan is paying for these options through higher premiums. Under a free market, of course, people are free to choose an expensive insurance plan that covers more things. It doesn’t make any economic sense to have such a plan, but it’s a free country. However, when the government starts mandating this or that benefit be included in the policy, there’s no free market and those who are paying for their insurance are forced to subsidize those who aren’t.

One more thing: As much as those on the other side of the aisle would like to make this a gender issue, it’s not.  Nor is it about contraceptives per se.  This is about personal responsibility and the desire of Ms. Fluke and her fellow travelers on the left to avoid it. I need a new roof this summer, I have to purchase mulch every spring, firewood every fall, and pay a guy to plow my driveway every winter.  I budget for these and other things and don’t expect my homeowner’s policy to pay for them.  I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect pampered Georgetown Law School students (male or female) to pay for their own elective behavior.  If said behavior is too expensive, stop whining and change the behavior.

Note: I originally posted update this as a response to a reader’s comment, but after further thought I thought it would make more sense as an update to the post.

 

 

 



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  • patnatasha

    maybe she should consider dropping out and to fully concentrate on having sex.

    • http://twitter.com/c3p0_II faster_kitty

      Maybe you should not be a jerk.

      • Guest

        Ask those mean, greedy, Marxist indoctrinating law school professors to take a pay cut so you can buy some birth control?

  • HuntingMoose

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    with so much sex, it sounds more she signed up for the wrong school.

    and by the way: at the brothel school they pay you.

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    • http://twitter.com/c3p0_II faster_kitty

      And you would know?

  • http://twitter.com/c3p0_II faster_kitty

    Hey, Doug — If the GOP is supposed to really be NOT against women, why don’t you denounce the author’s use of the term "co-ed"?  Why don’t you discuss the fact that the author ignored the student’s story about the classmate who lost an ovary because she couldn’t afford her prescription?

    I still don’t get how having her insurance cover the pill is making "us" pay for it.   Her school not state funded….  And don’t even go there with the we all pay with our premiums.  I will never get testicular cancer or need Viagra, but other folks in my insurance plan may.  I don’t have diabetes but my plan covers testing strips.  I’m not obese, but my plan covers gastric bypass surgery.

    • WilliamShipley

      As an employer, I don’t like the government deciding which coverage I must provide.  I’m tired of politicians taking credit for providing benfits by making me pay for them.  They obviously don’t understand the concept of how things get paid for by people who actually make money rather than tax it (or borrow it).  The idea that the insurance company was going to provide something for ‘free’ — only if you actually purchased a policy from them rather points that out.

      Now, I am happy to provide reasonably generous coverage, but that’s my decision, and my company deserves credit for it, not the administration.

      • Norcalo

        The government in general has way way overstepped it’s legitimate boundaries these days if you ask me.

        Ask the Catholic bishops too.

        Obama and the government think they can push just anybody around.

        They have some big lessons coming.

        • mscanadada

           I think you’ve got that backwards…it’s the Bishops (a bunch of Old Men) who are interfering in the lives of the people. go away old perverts…and leave the young boys alone.

      • http://twitter.com/c3p0_II faster_kitty

        William, as an employee, I resent the fact that my employer finds it acceptable to ask me what kind of contraception I use. 

        As an employer you have freedom to choose what type of coverage you provide the people who work for you.  You do not have the right to know for what they use that coverage.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Susan-Ally/100000172241964 Susan Ally

          You have the right to be an employer who can give your employers whatever they want. 

          What you do not have is the right to tell someone else what they should do with their business.

          Instead of demanding from others that every aspect of your life be provided for, why not take  all the risks-financially and otherwise-and create your own business, meet that payroll, pay those taxes, provide health insurance etc etc.

        • senator20526

          I think all employers should stop providing health insurance and let the employees see how expense it is….Health insurance was started during WW 2, to get workers, because so many were fight the war…It is a benefit, not a requirement.

          • mscanadada

             well yes, that will show them! stupid people needing healthcare…sheesh! where do they get off…let the poor die from their illnesses…yes, that’s it…I’m alright Jack, but you poor people who get cancer, diabetes, heart attacks…yes, let them pay for their own health…this is the land of the FREE!
            Glad I’m Canadian!

            • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QYZFK3VCHTZ4X53KSNDFJVUOEI Glenda

              Sweetie with your logical…..I’m glad your Canadian too!

    • Betsey_Ross

      Wait a minute.  How in the world does a female loose an ovary because she couldn’t afford her BC pills?  
       
      This child’s testimony was pure BS.  It turns out she searched all around to find a school that wouldn’t pay for them.  Georgetown is a Catholic school so they seemed like the likely target.  That’s right, target.  She went to that school so she could raise some he!! and advocate for having insurance to pay for her BC pills according to the WaPo.  Well, that raises red flags. I’ll bet if you could really check her out she isn’t even enrolled there.  If she is, I’ll bet the DNC is paying the bill.  Her testimony is laughable and silly.  She just put women’s rights back about to the place where it first started.  It’s always been about abortion and the killing off of the family, never about helping women advance to their full potential. 

      This feeble attempt to get people to focus on the phoney bc issue by the Democrats instead of the real problems of the world is pathetic.  They are trying to paint Republicans as being against BC.  They are trying to make access an issue when it isn’t and never has been. 

      But wait.  If we believe Ms.Fluke and take her at her word, she wants us to pay for her fun and entertainment.  That isn’t a right.  If she is having sex as much as she wants us to believe, then when does she have time to go to class?  Are all these guys the same person or are they casual acquaintences?  If so, then I think her main health concern is not only birth control, but STD’s.  These are definitely hazards of the world’s oldest profession.  If she were charging for all of this sex she wouldn’t need the government/us to help out, but she would need a law degree to keep practicing.    It’s all BS.  All of it.

      • http://twitter.com/c3p0_II faster_kitty

        First of all, it’s lose, not "loose".

        Birth control pills are used to treat several "lady part" diseases along with their original intent.

        Do you understand how birth control pills work?  I’m wondering, since you say:  "if she if having sex as much as a she wants us to believe…"  

        Please, for the edification of us all, describe how birth control pills should be taken and how they work.

        My mother took BC pills because my parents could only afford two kids.  What could you possibly say to that?

        • Guest

           Too bad you mother didn’t start taking the pills before we got stuck listening to your Marxism. Hey where is my Bentley? Obama should provide us all with a free Bentley. Sounds just as stupid as your comments doesn’t it?

          • AmsterdamExpat

            Watch out, JRD, or Aerwyn will report you to Attack Watch or whatever O is calling it now.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1236140974 Kimberly Petrich

          If, as she says, she is spending 3,000 dollars over three years, coming to 1,000 dollars a year, this means that she would be spending enough money to be on "the pill" consistently over the three years PLUS enough for TWO condoms per day for every single day of the entire three years, so either she is "tripling up" her birth control and managing to get it on EVERY DAY or she is knocking boots TWICE per day, EVERY day. AND she would still have plenty of money left over for a few drinks per weekend in a nice Georgetown night spot! A months supply of BC pills can be bought at any of a number of chain retailer pharmacies for about NINE DOLLARS a pack, or, approximately the cost of one drink in a Georgetown bar. This is a PHONY issue, and PHONY testimony. Most insurance companies that "don’t cover" birth control DO pay for the pills when prescribed for a medical condition, I know this because I used them for such a reason, my insurance paid for them (or would have, except I could get them at Walmart for LESS THAN my prescription co-pay so I just bought them myself!) That woman is full of crap, and I completely RESENT this leftist portrayal of women as victims. I am no victim of my own fertility, or of some imaginary patriarchy. Oh puh-leez.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1236140974 Kimberly Petrich

            Unless of course abortions are her primary form of "birth control", in which case, she can only afford about two per year for the three years she will be in law school, totaling a measly six abortions over three years, assuming a cost of 500.00 per murder, er, um "choice".

            • mscanadada

               sick, sick sick…from a website that claims to be Christian, you are not behaving as Christians…
              "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
              -Mahatma GandhiGo ahead…attack Ghandi.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QYZFK3VCHTZ4X53KSNDFJVUOEI Glenda

          Instead of the snide remarks, perhaps you could detail the pathophysiology of just how birth control pills cause the loss of an ovary? I could care less how much sex male or female college students or senior citizens have……but not with my paycheck. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1236140974 Kimberly Petrich

        We all know this woman is NOT having sex two times a day, every day, with ONE man. There is not a man on the planet that could perform anywhere near that amount!! Clearly, if she is having sex 2.5 times per day, (extrapolating from her own, uh, "statistics")….there are far more than ONE man involved in that operation. 

      • mscanadada

        Betsey_Ross, if you’re a woman, you have just displayed such a high degree of ignorance, it really is off the charts. Learn about anatomy and how women’s bodies work.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Susan-Ally/100000172241964 Susan Ally

      If I am to understand correctly, the student- who lost an ovary because she couldn’t afford her prescription-  can afford to attend a private college charging $24,000 per semester which is located in the expensive Washington DC area?

      If I understand you correctly, you demand that those who labor to earn $24,000 per year need to provide free Pills to non-income earning (aka non-taxpaying) students attending private colleges charging $24,000 per semester?

      You appear to be all about ‘fairness’, do tell, is it fair for workers earning $24,000 per year to provide free Pills to non-income earning  (aka non-taxpaying) students attending private colleges charging $24,000 per semester?

    • DougBrady

      "I still don’t get how having her insurance cover the pill is making "us" pay for it."

      Do you understand how insurance works? You can’t "insure" against events or costs that are certain to occur. This is not what insurance is about. Insurance is about risk management. There’s a reason, for example, that auto insurance doesn’t cover routine maintenance expenses such as new tires, brakes, oil changes, gasoline, etc. All car owners are certain to incur these costs and must budget for them accordingly.  If the government forced auto insurance companies them to cover these things, the cost of auto insurance would be astronomical, and many people would need government subsidies to afford it. Kind of like, er, health care insurance.

      More broadly, when the government forces health insurance companies to cover birth control pills (or anything else), all of us pay with higher insurance premiums, and an increasing number of people can’t afford them.  This is not a coincidence. I’m glad that your insurance plan covers all those things you list, but know that this necessarily means that everyone covered under the plan is paying for them through higher premiums. Under a free market, of course, they are free to choose an expensive insurance plan that covers more things. It doesn’t make any economic sense to have such a plan, but it’s a free country. However, when the government starts mandating this or that benefit be included in the policy, there’s no free market, and everybody is forced to subsidize people’s individual choices.

      If we accept Ms. Fluke’s numbers, her premiums must rise at least $1,000 per year to pay for this ($3,000/3 years). In reality, of course, the premiums would be higher than that to cover the costs of administering the insurance. For this reason, it would be cheaper for her to simply pay the $3,000 out of pocket. Unless, of course, other policyholders pay for it through higher insurance premiums. This, I suspect, is what she really wants.

      One more thing: This is not a gender issue, nor is it about contraceptives per se.  This is about personal responsibility and the desire of Ms. Fluke and her fellow travelers on the left to avoid it. I need a new roof this summer, I have to purchase mulch every spring, firewood every fall, and pay a guy to plow my driveway every winter.  I budget for these and other things and don’t expect my homeowner’s policy to pay for them.  I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect pampered Georgetown Law School students (male or female) to pay for their own elective behavior.  If said behavior is too expensive, stop whining and change the behavior.

      • CBDenver

        As per this article, birth control pills are not expensive at all.  Why should insurance companies be compelled to pay for something that costs less that 3 days worth of Starbucks coffee?  That woman’s testimony was the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time.

        "Birth control pills can be purchased for as low as $9 per month at a pharmacy near Georgetown’s campus. According to an employee at the pharmacy in Washington, D.C.’s Target store, the pharmacy sells birth control pills–the generic versions of Ortho Tri-Cyclen and Ortho-Cyclen–for $9 per month. That’s the price without insurance," the Target employee said.

        http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dc-target-sells-birth-control-9-month-georgetown-student-tells-congress-friends-are-going-broke-pay-pills_632955.html

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6URBNMP7T2YQ2N3KQ37VN4M7GI Cathy

        DougBrady -  Good article Doug.  Oh and I wouldn’t worry about the insurance bit – for a supposed law school student, she isn’t very smart if she
        thinks we would believe such garbage.  But if by some odd chance the government forces insurance companies to pay for them, then I want them to pay for my coffee.  Have you seen the price of coffee lately? I must have my coffee daily or I go stark raving mad and will do something really bad! /s

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Suki-Pero/100001668382968 Suki Pero

      If the government would get out of the healthcare business and stop regulating everything to death you could have a free market insurance plan and you could afford to buy a policy that didn’t cover you for Viagra.

    • eando

      OK, here’s the thing.  Contraception is something you use to avoid the consequences of your behavior.  You don’t have to have recreational sex, it’s a choice.  I don’t see why I should have to pay for promiscuous men and women to go at each other.  I’m also not a fan of having to pay increased insurance premiums to cover their STDs and Cervical cancer costs as well.

      The young women of today behave foolishly and expect other people to pay the costs of their behavior.  Perhaps if they had to pay the cost of their promiscuity they might take the time to find out if a young man is "sponge-worthy" before they jump into the sack with him.

      The GOP is not anti-woman, and getting worked up because of the term "co-ed" is just ridiculous.  If there ever were a group of people who were anti-woman it would be the Leftists in this country that have somehow convinced women that we’d be better off behaving like men.  So now we’ve got two sexes behaving like rutting animals, big improvement!

      I’m a middle aged woman who’s seen a lot of pain from friends who’ve paid the price for promiscuity in their youth; cervical cancer, herpes, infertility, and the painful aftermath of abortion.  "Choices" have consequences, I don’t want to pay to make it easier for people to make bad ones.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMXIAHSHFCMSCZ4CBM7TO5NC5I Joe Durnavich

      Aerwyn, you say that we will be "having her insurance company cover the pill," but actually the government will be forcing the insurance company to cover the pill.  The challenge for you, and for the left, is to explain how force leads to better health care for women, or for the population in general.  That is, how does the system improve when governments write contracts instead of  just enforcing them?

    • Guest

      Sex is not a disease. You don’t have to have sex, you know. There is a little thing called celibacy. Maybe this woman ought to practice it or go join a chicken ranch to get free contraceptives. You don’t go to a Catholic school, knowing it’s Catholic, and demand they provide contraceptives or pay for abortions.

  • conservativemama

    Women are being infantilized by the left.  Are we so pathetic that we cannot be responsible for our own lives?

    Why?  Why?  Why? Why am I expected to pay for someone else’s sex life?  Where’s the privacy they’re always talking about?  If you want control over your body then grow up and take responsibility for your actions.

    The same people who brought us Obamacare, which leaves you no privacy because the government owns you, all of you, has the nerve to shriek about privacy when it comes to abortion.  Pay for my sex life and then get out of the way when I want to rid myself of the consequences.

    And buy me the pill dammit!  I’ve got a bootycall scheduled.

    Women have completely embarrassed themselves.  And by women, I mean those fools who live on the Democratic plantation.

    • TexS2012

      Ditto! I wanted to say the same thing but you said it much better! Thanks!

  • carmtom13

    To bad, why did you go to an expensive school. Who is paying for your schooling? You should go to planned parenthood they would love to assist you for what you need. I think you need help. You should seek professional help. Perhaps your going into the wrong profession. You really made a fool out of yourself.

    • bucky321

      they spend all that money on expensive schools and drinking and not one dime for protection. how dare they

  • Audrey_I

    Some questions:  When forty percent of the female students want their contraceptives paid for, where is the tipping point between a University and a brothel?   Are Georgetown University students working as high price hookers?   Does Sandra Fluke expect the taxpayers to pay for her recreational activities?   Since when did promiscuous sex take priority over studies? What is wrong with abstinence? Is Sandra Fluke being selfish in demanding free contraceptives to be paid for by others? Why aren’t these students asking for a reduction in tuition so that they would have more to spend on their sexual escapades?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6URBNMP7T2YQ2N3KQ37VN4M7GI Cathy

      Audrey_l —–Some questions:  When forty percent of the female students want their
      contraceptives paid for, where is the tipping point between a University
      and a brothel?   Are Georgetown University students working as high
      price hookers? 

      They are in the right area for it.

  • Quiet_Righty

    *cough*
    *cough*
    *tramp*
    *cough*

  • aaron66krohn

    Oh boy!!!!

    This is one you do NOT want to touch!!!!

    (You might get a STD if you do!!!!)

    However……I gotta ask……

    Where were the Sandra Flukes when I was in college????

    But seriously……..HA!!…….

    aren’t we getting put on???

    This is an SNL skit, right????

    LOL

    • http://twitter.com/c3p0_II faster_kitty

      dude — judging from your fabulous comment, if you could not find any "action" I doubt it’s the fault of the ladies.

    • senator20526

      …dont you understand, she is studying to be a lawyer…..that says it all

  • AndreaB

    They are giving students food stamps and now they want contraceptives paid for. If we keep going this way the only thing students will be responsible for is breathing.

  • OldPat

    Friends, look a little deeper than the surface of this story, and you will see why BO wants all of our kids to go to college:

       1)  They will be forever indebted to the Government.
       2)   Most colleges are now finishing schools the left uses to produce good little socialists.  Best make yourself aware of what your child is being taught before it’s too late.

    • Norcalo

      Go to an engineering school, or study physics. You will get useful instruction & there won’t be time for all the BS.

      • bucky321

        law students learn how to get ahead

      • OldPat

        Indeed, Norcalo.  In my day law was a 2-year, not 3-year, course of study.  I guess keeping your nose to the grindstone of knowledge no longer appeals to our spoiled brats.
          
        The liberal arts types were the ones I used to worry about, or do they now call it ‘progressive arts’?

        I guess I’m just an old stick-in-the-mud wanting to stop progress. But wait a minute, didn’t ‘progress’ give us BO?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6URBNMP7T2YQ2N3KQ37VN4M7GI Cathy

          Well said OldPat, well said.

  • JeannieBinVA

    This is just sad.

    Right-wing commentators spout uninformed, insulting drivel like this, perpetuating all the usual misogynistic double standards, and thinking it’s witty to boast about how ignorant and uninterested they are when it comes to understanding the realities of women’s lives — and they still can’t understand why women keep voting Democratic.

    Go figure.

    • TexS2012

      I thought the whole thing is  a pretty sad display. A young woman talking about her sex life and crying for money. Not only sad but an amazing site to see.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Susan-Ally/100000172241964 Susan Ally

      I object to your characterization that we women are hapless, small-minded weak creatures  who are subservient voters to the Democrat party slave plantation.

      As a self-reliant, free woman I do not care for your insulting drivel. 

       You want to know the "realities of women’s lives", we are not beholden serfs subservient  to your Slave State. 

      The more you whine haplessness, the stronger I grow in Liberty.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Suki-Pero/100001668382968 Suki Pero

        This kind of crap by women makes the woman subservient.  Any woman who can’t take responsibility for her own actions and pay for her own choices and wants the man, aka government to pay for her lifestyle choices is a pawn to the left and socialist agenda. 

    • HuntingMoose

      may be some comments went a bit too far overboard if it was not directed at her but regarding this girl, she is asking for it.

      she is not the average girl, she has been an advocate for this and she has said that this was an important issue for her but, interestingly, she still was willing to go to this school and pony up this much money.

      so clearly she is not the average idiot who has been used since she is an activist. An activist who spend 50k/365= $150 a day for her education fee but paying for $3 in condoms is too much? And since she is only 50% of the party, that means she is involved according to her own words 6x a day. Hugh Haffner is not even that active.


      sorry to tell you, this girl sounds to me like a nymphomanic sex perv who does not need more condoms but a visit to the shrink , something that very well may be covered.

      But It is interesting to know that Nancy Pelosi and other democrats take her as representative for the whole population and not like us see her as an exception.

      ask yourself: who has a sick mind?

      • Kalena

         Actually, besides embarrassing herself as Pelosi’s useful idiot, she embarrassed herself by obviously being really bad at math and doing research to find the true cost of things.  How did she ever get LSAT scores high enough to get into Georgetown?

      • JeannieBinVA

        HuntingMoose, excuse me, "she is asking for it"? Because she expresses a different POV from yours or whoever’s, she deserves to be called vile names and accused of vile actions? 

        It kills me that people who have been outraged for years at how the media and the blogosphere denigrated Sarah Palin as a woman have no problem with other women being denigrated in exactly the same terms, and with just as little justification. Which is to say, zero justification.

        The fact that a woman holds a different point of view from yours and, God forbid, dares to say so publicly, does not excuse other people calling her and every woman like her a slut, a prostitute and fit for porn movies, and broadcasting all kinds of negative lies and conclusions about women’s private lives and decisions that have no basis in fact.   

        • HuntingMoose

          geezzz,

          ok. here we go again. I am ***NOT*** (very bold, ****NOT****) referring to her point of view that other people need to pay for her endevours.

          I am explicitly referring to her statement regarding how much intercourse she has and with multiple partners since, well, if you keep it to a single partner who is not at risk for transmitting diseases, the need for condoms is low but with multiple partners that is a different story.

          and that is what even the leftist wikipedia gives as description. A slut:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut
          Slut or slattern is a term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promiscuity
          Promiscuity, in human sexual behavior, refers to the practice of casual sex with multiple sexual partners

          so with "she is asking for it" I refer to the fact that she gives a description of her behavior that matches the wikipedia description of a slut.

          and if I may add, she is also doing a tremendous damage to the overall image of women since this is what many guys are seeing and next time they encounter a hard studying girl, they have this wondering thought if she is like the girl Nancy Pelosi showcased as a typical girl and the issues this college girl struggles with.

          She and Nancy Pelosi are a disgrace. period.

          • JeannieBinVA

            Where on earth do you get the idea that she is sexually promiscuous? She never made any statement about her sex life. Whatever you think she said was MADE UP by right-wing commentators.

            Nobody is talking about condoms, which are the least effective form of birth control. We are talking about real contraceptives, the kind that work: birth control pills. These are prescription drugs, taken every day (or 21 days out of every month, depending on the type of prescription), whether or not the woman is sexually active.

            Ms. Fluke didn’t even testify about sexual activity. She testified about a friend in her 20′s who needed contraceptives to treat her ovarian cysts — a pre-cancerous condition that affects between 8% and 15% of women, depending on age. Because her insurance wouldn’t cover contraceptives and she couldn’t afford them, she instead had to have one of her ovaries removed to avoid the risk of getting ovarian cancer, which is one of the deadliest forms of cancer (80% death rate). Because she was denied contraceptives to treat her MEDICAL condition, this young woman now is unlikely to ever be able to have children unless she undergoes very expensive, painful and time-consuming fertility treatments. 

            At least 15% of birth control pill prescriptions are to treat serious health conditions which have nothing to do with sexual activity. These drugs are no different from drugs to treat blood pressure or heart disease or diabetes.

            But to be clear: I don’t care if a woman has zero, 1 or 20 sexual partners, as long as she isn’t hurting anyone she has a legal, moral and constitutional right to do so. No woman deserves to be called vile names and pre-judged as immoral (on the basis of NO facts) simply because she wants a prescription for legal drugs.

    • Kalena

       Are you so missing the point to see how the left is using this girl as their useful idiot here?  Sad.

    • Guest

      Are you for real!?

  • nkthgreek

    Sad to say, Sandra’s probably not a fluke.

    • bucky321

      i was born to early

      • nkthgreek

        You’re probably better off for it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_N7HCPR7JLQP6R33GXP5DO5XKDM 1776er

    What’s next?  Free dope?  

    I friend of mine said that the Democrat Party is the Party of Sin, Death and Corruption.

    Extra Marital Sex, Abortion and Solyndra.

    Now they want it free?

    They want us to pay for their Sin, Death and Corruption.

    • bucky321

      what was that city in the bible?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMXIAHSHFCMSCZ4CBM7TO5NC5I Joe Durnavich

        Chicago?

  • nana4p

    Free Lotto tickets?

  • ernst1776

    You’ve come a long way baby!!!

  • lorenzini

    Rush is sooooo having fun with this and just stirring it up for the left to have a hissy fit. Lmao
    You go Rush!….When are condoms going to be free? They get expensive if you have sex 3 or 4 a week. I know….TMI

    • http://twitter.com/c3p0_II faster_kitty

      Yeah, dude!!!  Rush calls all women having enjoyable, consensual sex "prostitutes" and "sluts".  Sounds great out of the mouth of a man who has been married four times.

      • Kjanlady

        At least he married them and didn’t treat his ladies like sluts like billy clinton did……TROLL.

        • Freempg

          Kjan, billly treated his ladies fine, that was consensual rape.

          • bucky321

            on interns

        • Kalena

           Sometimes ole billy didn’t exactly ask permission to enter, so to speak.

      • bucky321

        if we have to pay for it, it is prostitution ms. dude

      • senator20526

        ..but he didn’t ask me to pay for his condoms.

      • Kalena

         Hey, at least he respected his women enough to marry them, even if for a short time, instead of expecting them to bring their own contraception!!!

        • blueniner

          Yeah and they got paid handsomely, so everybody came out well.

  • MarkRNY

    The Left didn’t just jump the shark on this one, they jumped Jaws. This would be an SNL skit for the ages if SNL weren’t Leftists.

    They’ve just defined ObamaCare as this issue–with this law school, legacy rich kid as the poster girl, as people are losing their homes by the second–and they didn’t know how DUM it was! The insane leading the insane. This is why eventually they have to resort to FORCE.

    Look at Pelosi’s claw reaching out to her in the pic!

  • ConservativeCanadian

    Her parents must be so proud.  If they’re paying tuition for their daughter to become a respected member of the legal profession, they need to ask for a refund.

    If my daughter did this, I would be mortified.

    • Audrey_I

      Apparently Ms. Fluke has a some sort of scholarship along with a subsidy from the Federal Government. 

  • 56Survivor

    This issue is ridiculous.  How about telling the guys to pony up for the cost of contraceptives?  How about Planned Parenthood?  How about just bite the bullet and give up the Starbucks and go buy your own condoms? 

    Good grief, as a woman I can tell you I would not be rutting around with some guy who can’t buy his own condoms.

    Who will pay when she comes up with an STD???

    Sorry, I don’t feel it is my place to pay for someone else who wants to "pal around" with losers.  But, that’s just me.

  • Exgunman

    Perhaps this young lady doesn’t belong in law school. It looks like she would have an nice career as an entrepreneur. The Govt may still own "The Mustang Ranch" and she could probably get it  at a fairly reasonable price………………………..

    • Kalena

       She would scare the customers away.

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