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Mr. L’s Post Presidential Election Rant

Mr. L goes after Obama, Obama’s voters, Chris Christie, Michael Bloomberg, the GOP Establishment, Mitt Romney, ORCA, and the Romney campaign consultants who told Romney he could beat Obama by stiffing the conservative base. Be forewarned: Sugarcoating is not Mr. L’s style, and this is no exception. With that disclaimer in mind, enjoy.

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  • Betsey_Ross

    After much consideration Tuesday was simply citizens voting for their "free stuff" and Romney not being able to successfully articulate the Conservative Cause.  Free stuff has taken over.  The Government is now Santa Claus. We have to figure out a way to fix it.

    • c4pfan

      I agree with you Betsey.  But, I think only Sarah is the voice we have right now and I just hope she knows that.

    • Mr.L

       Well I think a good start would be to have honest discussions about these issues.  We need people to argue and articulate against the welfare state.  Rush took a beating from his Santa Claus comment. But he was spot on.  America may be changing, but the immigrants that are coming here are also changing.  Their attitudes are changing about America.  So when I hear a leftist moron in my state tell me that "they all come here to work" no not exactly — more like they all come here to mooch.  As Rush mentioned the Heather McDonald article that came out on this subject.  America is slowly becoming the Department of HandOuts for the world.  And the GOP better get with it and stop thinking that the solution to the problem is just let them come and go as they please, because that’s kinda already happening.   Can the GOPe look themselves in the mirror & say that the Fed Gov is honestly enforcing immigration laws? I point to Jan Brewer in Arizona.  Then you have the tale of two hispanic repubs Ted Cruz & Marco Rubio.   Rubio is with the GOPe saying we have to grant mass amnesty to get the latino vote.  Cruz is with the conservative message saying that amnesty will not solve it.  we have to tackle the entitlement culture in America.  and he’s dead right.  doesn’t matter what party is giving the handouts, if you have anemic growth, poor economy, no jobs, and no money coming in to feed the welfare rolls you will hit the wall. 

      • friskyness

        Republican Ronald Reagan, gave amnesty in 1986!  The Hispanci vote should already be republican!  It’s not!  It will never be, because dems take credit for everything, and the repubs don’t fight.  If Rubio gives amnesty, the hispanics will vote with democrates!   Gee why are politicians so stupid!!!!!!!!!!

        • HuntingMoose

           Reagan gets a pass under the ‘fool me once’ rule. It was never tried before.

          But anyone after that, we are now at what is it, fool me 4 times?

    • friskyness

      He couldn’t articulate conservatism because he wasn’t conservative!

      • Betsey_Ross

        True.  However the Conservative message hasn’t been heard much since Sarah.  He got better at it, but it wasn’t completely in his heart.  The bad news is that all of the the beginning barbs at Romeny stuck in peoples’ minds.  The War on Women, Romeny responsible for a man’s wife dying of cancer even though he had nothing to do with it, and throwing granny over the cliff.  All that believed this stuff are low information voters and they all showed up at the polls to vote for Bronco Bamma. Romeny decided he didn’t need Sarah and all of us must suffer whatever consequences that are coming our way.

        The Republicans need a new party or they must develop their own propaganda machine. 

        Identity politics is pandering.  Pandering isn’t the answer.  Hispanics that vote, Blacks that vote are still Americans.  All of these hypheated Americans must assimilate.  They must be full members in the melting pot.  They aren’t and we are too divided.  I wish I knew how to accomplish this.  I am just good at identifying problems.  I need to brainstorm with people who are good at solutions.  That is my frustration with this election.  That is why the Republicans must become adept at explaining all of this.  I know there are people that can do it.  None of them are in charge right now.

    • bejocy

      F R A U D

    • bejocy

      Yes, but all the gifts in his bag come with a pair of leg irons.

  • TheresaAK

    Thank you Mr L….everything you said was so true….my take ….Democrats, the Party of Hate and Deceit, Republicans, the Party of Appeasement…

    Done with politics..

    Only God can help now…both parties have been complacent in the take down of America….one party by purpose, the other by stupidity.

    Mark America knew this all along….but was accused of being anti American, he is my modern day Patrick Henry…

    We can only look up now…

    • Mr.L

       You’re welcome. I agree. where the hell do we go from here? you have a corrupt left & media & no opposition party. Romney just concedes & walks off the stage cyalatabye. the RINOs in the GOP have no right to bitch. they got their moderate candidate, the "electable" one, and he lost.  & not only did he lose, it was stolen from him. No fight in him at all.

      • TheresaAK

        We can’t "fix" this Mr. L…it really is completely out of our control….it’s bigger than our votes, bigger than our voices ….and I cringe to admit that, in some ways, because I preach the Voices of We The People, all the time.

        But our voices were ignored…by our so called "leaders"….

        There is nothing man can do now…our fate lies in the Mercy of God Himself…

        We have totally screwed ourselves…

      • HuntingMoose

        "No fight in him at all."

        that is the one thing that bothered me the most on election night: he caved even before all the votes had been counted and before the vote counting had been verified and certified that no boxes got lost.

        What about Philadelphia. 99% to Obama in some districts with the black panters outside.

        What would have been ‘the optics’ if tea party people had been standing guard somewhere and that district would have gone 99% to Romney. Imagine the reaction in the corrupt media

        in fact, may be we should call one of those media and tell them about this one fictitious district that went 99% for Romney and once they take the bait, expose them for their bias.

        • Mr.L

           Yep. As I admitted in this segment posted, I foolishly thought that the reason for Romney not dumping money he had in piles on negative ads against Obama in states like Florida was because the campaign suspected that there would be vote fraud and recounts. So my thinking was that he was holding that money & resources back in case they had to divert those resources to legal challenges. Boy was I stupid.

      • bejocy

        The 158.85% in FL….140% in CO…the list goes on.  Allen West’s district was one of the most corrupt areas.  Voter fraud.  It happened all over the country.

        Romney was not the first choice of all, but he was the best choice of the two.  Even Sarah Palin admitted the same.  At least he loves America.

        Creeps (O supporters) were threatening to rape Ann Romney and kill Mitt.  They are evil and need to be held accountable for the fraud and the threats.

    • friskyness

      It’s the devil that has overcome everyone. 

  • HuntingMoose


    Vote fraud, vote suppression, misleaded ignorant fools voting with their private parts , the media more corrupt then ever before and our voters forgetting to vote.

    The silverlining is that this means we are still the majority. The clusterf$k is that we let us again be subjected to 4 years of lies from the radical left.

    Time for plan B. time for a 3rd party alternative for conservatives. I refuse to cave to a corrupt minority

    • HuntingMoose

      O, i forgot to mention: the missing ballot boxes that conveniently were forgotten, you know, the boxes early before people go to work, after work and as West shows, those ballot boxes from militairy that have not yet been received

      (And why does it take so long to count those votes, can those not be counted on the bases and use one of those fancy communication things to tell us immediately?

      • Mr.L

         Just take a look at what is going on with Allen West.  Obvious fraud going on in his election. He demanded recounts and they have a county board of elections nazi suppressing the thing at every cost for the Democrat. And guess what, the CBE nazi is black.  allowing voter fraud and not counting every vote in that county against a decorated war veteran congressman who is also black.  what a country.

  • Mr.L

    thanks for sharing Doug. 

  • Patriot41

    This is a response to George Will’s article on the 2012 election posted on Human Events site. Check it out and see if you don’t agree.

    I have finally completed my analysis of the 2012 election and in so
    doing, have found that none of the political experts and pundits, even
    came close to why Obama won and the democrats held control of the

    To begin with, the results of this election had little to do with
    Romney being unqualified for the presidency. If anything, he was more
    eminently qualified then Obama, to deal with the financial crises that
    this nation is facing.

    It had nothing to do with how many evangelicals or independents,
    failed to go to the polls to support Romney. If anything, Romney got
    more support from the Christians and libertarians then Obama did.

    Obama and the democrats set this election up in a very simple
    fashion, starting from the day Obama took over as president, with a
    strategy that was laid out right before the opposition all along and
    none of the geniuses from the opposition, saw or understood the strategy
    for what it was. Neither did all of the so called political experts,
    who have been beating the bush trying to understand what happened on
    election day. I am not as elegant as George is when describing my
    viewpoint or understanding of what took place, but I will make an effort
    here to do so as concisely as possible.

    Obama and his team won this election for the following reasons:

    1. Class warfare; 2. Homosexual support; 3. Removing tax liability
    of the lower income citizens; 4. Increased financial assistance for
    College Students; 5. Bailing out the Auto Industry with Stimulus funds;
    6. Giving the labor Unions control over the Auto Industry; 7. Bailing
    out the Banking Industry with stimulus money; 8. Taking govt., control
    of the Medical System through Obamacare; 9. Making Medicaid available
    for 70 million lower income citizens; 10. Extending unemployment checks
    for an additional year; 11. Granting access to Food Stamps for 1 out
    of every 5 citizens; 12. Providing a refinance system for all of those
    who were losing their homes through foreclosure; 13. Directed DHS to
    not secure the Borders of this country and to stop deportation of known
    illegal immigrants; 14. Used an Executive order to stop deportation of
    illegal immigrants; 15. Provided a clunkers program with stimulus
    money, to assist the auto industry with sales and to provide access to
    new vehicles for lower income citizens; 16. Provided free cell phones
    to all lower income citizens; 17. Retained the loyalty of all African
    American and Jewish citizens; and 18. Last, but definitely not least,
    encouraged major voter Fraud by his loyal supporters, vote early and
    vote often.

    Obama and his team, have been promoting all of these actions from the
    entire time that he has been in office. He never campaigned on the
    economy or foreign policy after he won the election in 2008. He never
    ran on the terrible economy that he was responsible for or the many
    mistakes he made along the way. He constantly reached out to the lower
    income citizens and the minorities, legal and illegal, because they make
    up the majority of voters in this country. He deliberately created
    class warfare toward the middle class and the wealthy, to insure that he
    had the lower income bracket and the minorities in his back pocket.
    His campaign chief even bragged about not targeting the middle class
    whites. Their whole campaign strategy was based on that very statement.
    He took a page out of FDR’s book, when dealing with a terrible economy
    and it worked.

    All of the GOP candidates and the establishment leadership of their
    party, concentrated on what they thought to be the important issues at
    hand, to save this economy. Jobs was their theme along with an energy
    program that would make our economic system rebound. In no way did they
    understand the simple strategy that Obama’s team deployed, reaching out
    to the majority of voters on an emotional basis. What did Obama’s
    supporters say, " He cared about us." I heard the same thing from
    citizens, about FDR. That my friends, is how Obama won this election,
    nothing more, nothing less.

  • friskyness

    Even if Rubio gives amnesty……Obama will sign it and get all the credit.  Rubio will have handed the democrats a permanent majority forever!  The republicans have to fight amnesty until there is a repubican president to sign it.  Reagan was republican and gave amnesty, but the hispanics always still vote democrat!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Face it, hispanics are takers and will always vote for the givers!

    • HuntingMoose

       amnesty is not what the illegals want.

      the polls have shown it in the voting pattern of those already given amnesty: they vote for Santa Clause.

  • Mr.L

    An example of what’s wrong with the GOP exhibit A: Rep Cathy McMorris Rogers  Another
    example of a clueless republican who wants to hold hands with a traitorous
    media and has the nerve to say the party needs to be more modern???
    Where are the women at? Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Mia Love,
    Susanna Martinez, Jan Brewer, Nikki Haley…… I think it’s time that
    not only we turn our aggression on the left, republicans like this broad
    need to be purged

    • blueniner

      McMorris is a Boehner stooge, you always see her towering above all the men and standing behind Boehner, she is a RINO.

  • Jasmine Clark

    but wait!!!

    i was told that romney was "electable."

    • HuntingMoose

      "ha ha. fool you once…"

      for all the soul searching in the GOP, this has shown that moderates , the best possible moderate we could ever wish for as Karl Roove and the likes have claimed, cannot win.

      We have work to do. We need to start with plan B, I mean, plan C as in ‘conservative party’. 2014 gives only 2 years time and a lot of work needs to be done.

    • pipam12

      I seem to recall that Sarah was asked who was going to win the election and she said Romney 

  • jgrimes

    I love you Mr. L. 
    I stand w Sarah Palin…
    Fight like a girl…

  • HuntingMoose


    how do we educate the moochers that growing the pie of moochers is not going to help them but will result in only less pie?

    A smart moocher is in favor of laws to reduce moochers, unless they fear they will be the first to be removed from moocher eligibility

  • Mr.L
  • section9

    Excellent take, Mr. L. 

    If Palin runs, and I hope she does, she needs to hire you as a paid consultant. You are worth a thousand Mike Murphys. 

    Mark America is worth ten thousand Karl Roves.

    • Mr.L

       Thank you for your kind words. I would second hiring Mark America. LOL as for me, I probably would only get her into trouble.

  • ConservativeCanadian

    The article referenced by Mr. L in this podcast is here:


    ….Harry Reid wants to end the filibuster? Tell him it won’t be necessary.
    For the next four years, Republicans will do what a certain Senator from
    Illinois made a career of doing: they will simply vote "present" on
    every bill put before them in both houses of Congress. In effect, give
    Democrats they same unassailable majority they had in 2008–the same one
    that led directly to the passage of ObamaCare.

    Radical? Compared to what? Watching a president get re-elected, despite
    four major scandals, the worst recovery on record, and the explosion of
    entitlements–all of which was blamed on the aforementioned Republican
    obstructionism? Being blamed for everything that will go wrong from 2012 to 2016, completely irrespective of reality or the truth?

    It’s time to get real: the only thing Republicans can do is delay the
    inevitable. Why bother? The sooner progressives and the media bring
    America to its knees, the sooner the people who know better can put the
    nation back on its feet.

    I know what you’re thinking. What about the hell we’ll have to go
    through between now and then? A couple of answers. First, it’s time for
    the voting majority to get exactly what they voted for–in spades.
    Second, and this applies not just to America, but to every socialist
    country that has also run out of other people’s money to spend: better
    an out and out meltdown and genuine recovery after two or three
    years, than the ongoing twilight of semi-misery we’re currently
    enduring. Misery that could last a decade more–or longer.

    Any attempt to meet Democrats "half-way" is a fool’s errand. There is no
    split-the-difference, get along to go along, compromise that can be
    reached between tyranny and freedom. With respect to the rule of law and
    the Constitution, you’re either in or you’re out.A nation is either
    solvent or bankrupt. It is either exceptional or ordinary. The American
    majority voted for tyranny, bankruptcy and mediocrity.

    Give the people what they want–until they can’t stand it anymore."

  • Joe Durnavich

    To reiterate a point from Mark Steyn’s latest piece, Obama may be President of the Hispanics, but he’s not President of Reality.  Reality doesn’t care a whit about who voted for whom.  The debt, food stamp recipients, and bankruptcies are marching upwards at the same rate after the election as before, and maybe even a bit faster:

    Obama may be Santa Claus, but he’s a Santa Claus with an empty bag.

    • Mr.L

       exactly. Steyn on the money as usual. if you intend to give out more goodies & freebies with an empty bag you’re going to hit the wall. it’s very simple.  So while people think we may hit the wall in 4-5 yrs. I’m thinking it maybe 2-3 years.  it’s coming & it’s already beginning

      Layoffs coming thanks to Obama’s 2nd term: • Energizer – 1,500 • Exide Technologies – 150 • Westinghouse – 50 • Research in Motion Limited – 200 • Lightyear Network Solutions – consolidating offices in Louisville and Pikeville • Providence Journal – 23 • Hawker Beechcraft – 240 • Boeing (30% of their management staff) – 30% of executives • CVPH Medical Center – 17 • US Cellular – 640 in Chicago • Momentive Performance Materials – 150 • Rocketdyne – 100 • Brake Parts – 75 • Vestas Wind Systems – 3,000 • Husqvarna – 600 • Center for Hospice New York – 40 • Bristol-Meyers – 480 • OCE North America – 135 • Darden Restaurants – will limit workers to 28 hours per week • West Ridge Mine – will close down "204 American coal-fired power plants by 2014? • United Blood Services Gulf – will lay off approximately 10 percent of its workforce
      A layoff is tough enough for employees to deal with, imagine hearing
      the crushing news that your office is shutting down just before
      Thanksgiving and Christmas… Here are some of the business closings
      that were announced in just the past two days: •Caterpillar Inc. will close its plant in Owatonna Minn. •Mount Pleasant’s Albrecht Sentry Foods •The Target store at Manassas Mall Va. •Millennium Academy in Wake Forest NC •Target Closing Kissimmee FL Location •The Andover Gift Shop in Andover MA •Grand Union Family Markets Closing Storrs Location CT •Movie Scene Milford Location NH •Update: TE Connectivity Closing Greensboro Plant — 620 Layoffs Expected •Gomer’s Fried Chicken in South Kansas City •Kmart in Homer Glen •Fresh Market on Pine Street in Burlington •AGC Glass North America to permanently close its Blue Ridge Plant in Kingsport Tenn. •The Target store at Platte and Academy in Colorado Springs •The Roses store on Reynold Road in Winston-Salem NC •Meanders Kitchen losing its West Seattle location at 6032 California Ave •Bost Harley-Davidson at 46th Avenue North and Delaware Ave. in West Nashville TN •Townsend Booksellers in Oakland •The Kmart store in Parkway Plaza off University Drive in Durham NC — 79 Jobs Lost

  • goldenprez

    There are 2 reasons why Willard Romney lost this election. The Republicans and the Democ-rats.

    I stopped posting on this site for a long period of time. The reason was that I was tired of taking the abuse from fellow "conservatives" whenever I stated that all the GOP candidates were just as much a part of the Government Party as Democ-rats.

    I tried to make it clear that the GOP was just as much an "enemy" to conservatives, and to freedom, as the Democ-rats.

    Willard Romney got 3 million fewer votes than John McLame. I will not hazard a guess as to how many of those voters were disenchanted conservatives, but I am not afraid to say that it was probably an overwhelming majority.

    As long as the GOP believes that the conservative base has nowhere else to go, they will continue to disregard conservatives. How long is "long?" It is forever.

    Prior to this election, 40% of the American people described themselves as conservative. We can, and must, divorce ourselves from the GOP once and for all. When that happens they will be relegated to the dustbin of history. It will then be a war between conservatives and socialists, with no middlemen, i.e., moderates, to water down the conservative message.

    Our so-called conservative bloggers have got to wean themselves from the GOP, cold turkey. As long as they keep thinking they can change the status quo from "inside," they are battling odds that make winning the lottery look like a cinch.

    Conservative radio is doing conservatives no favor by not calling, loudly and clearly, for a conservative party. Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh have influence. Levin has been dancing around the idea. Rush has just continued carrying water for the GOP. Hannity will do whatever Mark Levin tells him to do.

    2014 is just around the corner. We need to send true conservatives to the Senate and House and get rid of the professional politicians who currently populate those places.

    Throw them all out! The status quo must go!

    Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.

    Illegitimi non carborundum.

    Barracudas Maximus.

    • gunpoint68

      We (the people’s party) need a conservative manifesto.  It needs to be a point by point refutation of every single leftist position.  
        An all-points platform with clear principled positions.  And behind these, fully articulated explanations and rationales as to why we believe what we believe, and why other arguments don’t pass muster.  This probably requires good philosophical arguments, good historical precedents, and reasoned economic positions.  This is what is required for full frontal advocacy of our position.This is what’s need to resist the leftist dogma and educate the ignorant indoctrinated.

      The Republican establishment has failed to do this.  This has a left a vacuum into which the idiotic leftist slant has gained traction.  You have to advocate for where they’re wrong, and why they’re wrong.  Then if they want to argue, they also have to explain why they think they are right, and defend against our arguments.  That will be harder for them to do.  Up to this point, they have been able to spout illiterate nonsense, unchallenged.

  • xthred

    Love Mr L ;)

  • daisy_mae

    Thank you Mr. L for telling it like it is!

  • gunpoint68

    As I said at the time Sarah backed out of the race, we are going to have to face the fact that the only way to win this thing and save the country is through a third party.  I know, you’ll say that’s impossible.  What we are witnessing happen is impossible, and getting worse.  The status quo is so entrenched that it has become impossible to reform it.  They (the establishment) has too much to lose from re-aligning with the Conservative base.  Unfortunately, the other side of the spectrum is very well represented, thank you very much.  They represent their base in spades.  The Republicans, rather than representing their own base and encouraging its expansion, instead tries to rub up against the other side, or not piss it off, or avoid confrontation.  And this is not going to win over the other side.  The only alternative that works is to invigorate your own principles, your own side of the argument, that half of the country that agrees with you.  If the effort is made to teach, to reiterate why conservatism works and socialism doesn’t, to defend it, to stop chasing after the other skirt, to defend your beliefs, to insist on making them heard and known, eventually your side will stand solidly in agreement, and possibly some from the other side will buy into the reasonableness of your arguments. 

    But when you opt out of arguing your side for fear of raising your heads high enough to be shot off, when you chicken out and fail to counter BS when it’s presented, when you insist on not being "confrontational", when you fail to make your case,  no one listens.  And your own base gives up on you. 

    That’s why the Republicans lost:  they didn’t represent anything other than a vague anti-Obama doctrine. 

    The GOP establishment will never represent conservatives.  They are too busy trying to play Democrat-Lite and hoping to steal some of that side’s shallow, ignorant adherents.  But the electorate figures "if I have to choose between the Democrat or Democrat-Lite argument, why not go for the real deal and vote Democrat".  We have to present a real alternative, not a timid ‘me-too’. 

    Since the GOP will never change, and conservatives are shunned by the party, that tent is closed.
    The 50% plus of the country (likely more like 65%) that is conservative, or would come to agree with the conservative point of view if only it was taught (yes taught) to the skeptical, needs a voice.  That voice will never be the GOP.  Reagan won against the GOP.  He won over the people.  He explained to them why his was a better vision.  He taught them, and convinced enough of them to follow him.  And they did.  And he did it in full opposition to the establishment GOP. 
    Sarah was shunned by the GOP.  They not only bought the Democrat BS that whe was "too polarizing", they also had no interest in cracking open the doors for an outsider, for a force that would dismiss their comfort zone and ignore their insider pimping schemes.  Thank God she IS polarizing.  We need more polarizing!  That is how our side of the polarity (reasoned as opposed to moronic and infantile) gets represented!  And if pursued intelligently (ie., principled explanation to an ignorant section of the electorate who likely would respond to a sensible message) rather than trying to avoid saying anything offensive and restricting your appeal to a single sound-byte ( "I’ll create 12 million jobs"!!) (which by the way was never explained as to how he actually expected to do that), all due to some misquided beltway advice that this was all anyone ever needed to hear, there is no doubt that the conservative base would have fallen in behind that intelligent message, that they would have been believers, would have offered their support, and would have joined thte effort to convince the country that they had a viable vision, a viable alternative to the destructive status quo.

    SO.  We need a new party.  It will be an uphill battle.  It may split thte vote early on, but its strength will eventually predominate, and one of two things will occur: either the GOP will have to embrace this force, or, The GOP will fade away as the GOP base migrates over to this new standard bearer. As I’ve indicated, personally I’ll bet the GOP will fade away.  They’re not getting the job done, they’re too entrenched, and they don’t represent us.  And the approaching economic collapse will shake the system violently enough that new alternatives will be listened to, and welcomed, in the search for a way out.

    It appears the status quo will not reform willingly.  It will be forced out through calamity.  Since that is looming on the horizon, it is time to start to build the post-apocalyptic conservative answer.  Whether that means consolidating, coordinating, and expanding a coherent tea party organization, or co-opting its roots, the political organizational effort has got to get going.  Now.


    • goldenprez

       gunpoint68 … People are going to think that you are me using a pseudonym … lol

      You are quite right. It has to start now!

      This site is, of course, conservatives4Palin. Mrs. Palin is going to have to make a move in the immediate future, very immediate future. At this point, if she doesn’t, she may well become irrelevant.

      It is going to take someone, expectantly Mrs. Palin, to step forward, disavow the GOP, and begin to work with local, state, and regional rebels to form a coherent conservative Party, propelled, as you state, by a coherent conservative message.

      There is no one else in the political firmament who is as strategically placed, has the confidence of the people, and has the experience and expertise required to do what we are both stating needs to be done. The question is, does she have the fire in the belly to do it?

      As it now stands, she has absolutely nothing to lose. The GOP has made it abundantly clear, over the past 4 years, that they want no part of her. She has absolutely no influence with the GOP, so there is no reason to remain in their "tent." In fact, her only alternative is to leave politics altogether and become just another talking head. Somehow, I do not, based upon her past actions, think that is how she wishes to "serve" the United States of America, or We The People.

      Your comment about polarization echoes many things I have written here and on many other sites. We need fighters. In fact, we need people who are spoiling for a fight and not afraid to let the other side know it. Faint heart never won fair maiden. This is a bare-knuckles brawl. The moderates can go and hide behind their pianos.

      Historically speaking, the country has always boiled down to one-third of the people who are willing to take action, one-third of the people who are not willing to take action, and one-third of the people who do not care enough to choose a side.

      If it wasn’t for the one-third who were willing to take action, there would be no United States of America.

      Throw them all out! The status quo must go!

      Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.

      Illegitimi non carborundum.

      Barracudas Maximus.

  • ven04

    Who gets more ‘FREE STUFF’ than the citizens of ALASKA? Our Sarah knows about that.

    • Mr.L

       Sock puppet, if we were to put your brain into a bird, it would fly backwards.  if you’re insinuating that Alaska is a welfare state this is nothing but an ongoing heap of crap that I’ve been hearing lately put there by the HCPM (Hussein Church of the Perpetually Misinformed) They believe its somehow useful to justify all of the welfare spending that is currently happening under Barack Obama in America.  After all, it is him that currently has grown the welfare state in America in the past four years ten fold.  Or some kind of distraction from the disgrace of Obama & Benghazi.
      But if you want to claim Alaska is a welfare state I’ll go there. I actually have a friend living up there.  We’ve discussed this in great length and seriously you HCPM people need to go and read the NW Ordinance of 1797.  Usually when people talk about a "welfare state" and Alaska, what they are really talking about is the number of Federal dollars sent to Alaskan from the Federal Government. Because they are on the "front lines" and have a strategic position and that position requires defense assets. The strategic location, along with possessing 54% of North America’s coast line gives Alaska a rather unique position in both the US and globally. The US Government has a vested interest in protecting that coast line and their defensive posture. But then, that would greatly harm the US defensive posture, so it is mutually beneficial for the US to retain its military presence in Alaska.
      the other aspect is the high portion of Federal Asset Ownership in Alaska, and if the Feds would just give their state the land it is owed in the state hood charter, the people living there would be in high cotton. If the Federal Government would repeal Salaczar?s decision, they could lead the US out of the depression and provide the US with gas prices at $.75 a gallon. If you and Obama’s environmentalists would go away,  the state of Alaska walking and chewing at the same time would aptly protect the polar bears and still provide more gold that the US T could ever mint.
      So please, go demand to your Dear Leader that he withdraw the regulatory dogs of war and let Alaska lead the US to a new era of economic opportunity. 
      Gene, your intellectual poverty is noted and know that it is mocked.
      As for your free stuff claim and attempting to tie that to Mrs. Palin, again see NW Ordinance of 1797.  Jay Hammond designed the PFD (Permanent Fund Dividend) to give the citizens the cash instead of a program. If a person or family wants to live outside the confines of government then they’d most likely spend that money on supplies. If you want to live in an organized borough, great! Here is the money for the property tax. That isn’t welfare that is their part of state owned resources that have been leased. Those moneys are distributed per head, and spent to allow the social choice function to be maximized by the residents. The profits go to everyone equally. Alaskans spend that money as THEY see fit, not as some local government transfer. That is what the founders really meant. An Alaskan’s PFD goes to pay property taxes if one should live near a governmental entity. However, an individual could move outside of the borough and enjoy a more primitive, a more isolated, existence. It’s their choice.  But hey I understand all of your confusion.  I know how you liberals love the idea of choice but only when it concerns the killing of babies in the depths of the womb and not what individuals would like to do with money in the depths of their own pockets.
      The big difference is that instead of the state giving the money to a local government, the state gives it to the person and the person decides if they want to live in a borough or not, and spends their dollars as they see fit. This isn’t welfare; it isn’t means tested. It is a distribution of profits from productive use of state lands; generally from a lease agreement with a private company.  

      You’re attempt at humor with the “free stuff" dig doesn’t hold water. It was Jay Hammond, not Sarah Palin, who designed it. She did save it, and did more in her 3 years as Governor than most others do in 8. Most Alaskans would take Sarah again in a heartbeat, because she reclaimed that state from corrupt politicians and restored fiscal sanity.  

      You want free stuff in Alaska? Go to church, because that is all the welfare they have in Alaska. Yes, if you want free stuff, go to the food bank, get the free food list (the churches take turns in the food distribution) and find out who has free food that day. Or you can enter a raffle for free land from some of the local governments, so I guess there is free stuff there, but I would argue that this is no different than what other states are doing with their lands.  
      The truth of the matter is that you folks are thinking of Alaska’s Permanent Fund dividend system as a negative income tax, and that is not accurate. Alaska does not have income taxes the state is not structured like Taxachussetts. Quite frankly, some of your blue states have sent some of their finest economic refugees to that state.  Please know that Alaskans thank you for that. However, you should consider learning from Alaska as to how YOUR state can operate without levying taxes and oppressing economic activity. 

      • xthred

        Mr L, you have two things I lack. Eloquence and patience.

  • Elwanda Burrell

    I read the end of the book and we win……I stand with Sarah Palin!!!

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