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One Example of a Questionable Poll, Update: And One More

These polls are all too common.  After days of a much closer match-up from polls like Rasmussen in Iowa, a new poll was released by Gravis Marketing which simply does not add up when you examine the data.

In it, it reflects President Obama with a 4-point lead in the state.  In addition, it has early voter tallies of 63 for Obama and 28 for Romney.

Let the unskewing begin:

First, the poll reflects 49% for Obama with 45% for Romney, with 6% undecided.  According to most pollsters, the undecided voters always tend to go for the challenger and not the incumbent.

Second, the early-voting numbers are mysterious.  While Romney leads voters who are voting on Tuesday by 54-42, Obama leads with early voters by 63-28.

According to the National Journal which gets its numbers from the Iowa Secretary of State, requested ballots total 557,432 ballots broken down by the following party percentages:

43.3% / 32.2% / 24.4% (D/R/Other)

If you give Obama all of the Democrats: 43.3% plus all of the Independents: 24.4% this would equal about 68%.  The Gravis poll however has Romney leading Obama among independents by 5 whole points in the overall poll.

Now, I understand that maybe they picked a larger sample of the Democrats among early voters alone.  There are different ways to achieve percentages.  But you would think that there would be some kind of a correlating pattern between the actual percentages of absentee ballots sent out by party and the actual returns.

Finally, the poll over-samples Democrats by +6 points.  Yet, Obama only comes out with a 4-point lead.  That’s what most people see and move on.  Yet, it suggests that 2% of Democrats won’t vote for Obama while the early-voting results suggest that perhaps some Republicans may be voting for Obama.

At the end of the day, something clearly stinks or someone has a broken calculator.


And here is another.  The latest NBC/WSJ/Marist poll shows Obama leading Romney in Ohio by six points as of today.

Their polling sample?

Strong Democrat, Not Strong Democrat, and Democrat Leaning Independent = 48% of their sample

Strong Republican, Not Strong Republican, and Republican Leaning Independent = 41% of their sample

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  • wodiej

    No, they are just corrupt.  Thanks for the skewed numbers.  

  • John Buaas

    A little Googling would have shown that Gravis has equally-skewed results favoring Romney in other races (notably Virginia) and, in any event, isn’t very forthcoming about its methodology.

    The time for worrying about the pre-election polls (especially outlier and partisan polls) is now pretty much past.  Unless you’re a skier or a stripper.

    • Laddie_Blah_Blah

      In 2004, Larry Sabato of UVa predicted a Kerry win in Virgina of about 4%, as I recall, shortly before the election. Bush won by about 6%, if memory serves. Carter lead Reagan by double digits just 2 weeks before the 1990 election, and Reagan carried 46 of the 50 states (we didn’t have 57 states yet).

      Who pays those guys? They are not getting their money’s worth.

  • gahanson

    The dems have been using skewed polls as a tool in their voter suppression drive for decades, there is nothing new here.

  • GetWhatYouPayFor

    Anyone else get the feeling that this election will not be over on Nov. 7th?

  • TheFluidPusher

    A very wise woman once gave us some words of wisdom about polls…

    They’re for strippers.

  • Right_Wingnut

    The left has been whining about Gravis for a while. Their polls tend to be skewed toward Romney in most cases. 

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