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Rush: "I watched Sarah Palin, she was on with Greta late. You know what? I tell you, she was right on the money."

Other results from Tuesday: Michele Bachmann appears to have held on, Allen West appears to be have fallen short, Mia Love lost, Deb Fischer/Jeff Flake/Ted Cruz/Orrin Hatch all won.

No state shifted more to Obama in 2012 than Alaska. It went from 59-38 McCain/Obama to 55-42 Romney/Obama with 98.6% of precincts reporting. The Governor’s presence on the ticket clearly added around 10-12 points to McCain’s margin in 2008 in the Last Frontier when considering just how strong 2008 was for Obama and the Democrat Party.

Now that the election is over, where do we all go from here?



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  • ZH100

    Good morning all.
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    ‘Poll: Americans Reject Crony Capitalism, 3-1′

    From the article:

    "In a recent Boston Herald column, pollster Scott Rasmussen of Rasmussen Reports cited poll findings that show strong bipartisan opposition to cronyism and its effects on free markets."
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/12/POLLSTER-Voters-Strongly-Reject-Cronyism

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    Long before "crony capitalism" became a topic of national debate Gov. Palin has fought against corruption and crony capitalism.

    Taking on corruption and crony capitalism has always been a cornerstone of Gov. Palin’s agenda.

    Here are some links with information about Gov.Palin’s consistent fight against corruption and crony capitalism.
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    ‘Institutionalizing Crony Capitalism’   (by Governor Palin)  

    From the article:
     
    "We need to be on our guard against such crony capitalism. We fought against distortion of the market in Alaska when we confronted “Big Oil,” or more specifically some of the players in the industry and in political office, who were taking the 49th state for a ride.
    My administration challenged lax rules that seemed to allow corruption, and we even challenged the largest corporation in the world at the time for not abiding by provisions in contracts it held with the state. When it came time to craft a plan for a natural gas pipeline, we insisted on transparency and a level playing field to ensure fair competition.

    Our reforms helped reduce politicians’ ability to play favorites and helped clean up corruption. We set up stricter oversight offices and ushered through a bi-partisan ethics reform bill. Far from being against necessary reform, I embrace it. "
    https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=382303098434
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    ‘Crony Capitalism on Steroids from GE to Solyndra’ (by Governor Palin)

    From the article:

    "This crony capitalism and government waste is at the heart of our economic problems. It will destroy us if we don’t root it out. It’s not just a Democrat problem or a Republican problem. It’s a problem of our permanent political class."
    http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150295067853435
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    ‘How Congress Occupied Wall Street’  (by Governor Palin)
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204323904577040373463191222.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
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    ‘Palin: Congress, it’s time to stop lining your pockets’ (by Governor Palin)
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/story/2011-12-12/congress-insider-trading-sec/51841156/1
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    ‘Governor Palin’s Consistent Fight against Corruption and Crony Capitalism’  (by Whitney Pitcher)

    From the article:

    "Governor Palin’s strong stance against crony capitalism, bureaucrats picking winners and losers, and a lack of transparency is not just words; it’s action.

    Citizen candidates do indeed bring a fresh perspective to a campaign and even to public office. However, there is something to be said for someone who took on corruption while in elected office. Such an individual has governed or legislated in an atmosphere of corruption, back room deals, and cronyism and has not only weathered such an atmosphere, but has effected change for the better. It is one thing to act as a citizen watchdog; it is another to make sure that legislation and projects are transparent and are void of back room deals and crony capitalism. Governor Palin is such a person."
    http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/05/governor-palins-consistent-fight-against-corruption
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    ‘Some of Sarah Palin’s Ideas Cross the Political Divide’ (by Anand Giridharadas)

    From the article:

    "But something curious happened when Ms. Palin strode onto the stage last weekend at a Tea Party event in Indianola, Iowa. Along with her familiar and predictable swipes at President Barack Obama and the “far left,” she delivered a devastating indictment of the entire U.S. political establishment — left, right and center — and pointed toward a way of transcending the presently unbridgeable political divide. "
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/10/us/10iht-currents10.html
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    ‘How Governor Palin Reformed Alaska’s Ethics Laws and Made Crony Capitalism a Crime’ (by Gary P)

    From the article:

    "With all of the talk of corruption and crony capitalism these days, this is a great time to talk about some of the things Sarah Palin did to reform Alaska politics. She worked with the Alaska Legislature to pass tough, sweeping ethics reform "
    http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/how-governor-palin-reformed-alaskas-ethics-laws-and-made-crony-capitalism-a-crime/
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    ‘Dan Mitchell of the Cato Institute praises Sarah Palin for highlighting Washington’s rampant crony capitalism ‘ 
    http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2011/09/10/kudos-to-sarah-palin-for-exposing-the-sleazy-bipartisan-corruption-problem-in-washington/
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    ‘How Palin Beat Alaska’s Establishment’ (WSJ)

    From the article:

    "If you’ve read the press coverage of Sarah Palin, chances are you’ve heard plenty about her religious views and private family matters. If you want to know what drives Gov. Palin’s politics, and has intrigued America, read this."
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122057381593001741.html?mod=djemEditorialPage
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    ‘Sarah takes on Big Oil: The compelling story of Governor Sarah Palin’s battle with Alaska’s
    ‘Big 3′ oil companies’
    (by Kay Cashman and Kristen Nelson)

    Gov. Palin’s successful efforts to stop the cronyism and reform the energy business in Alaska were so impressive Kay Cashman, the publisher and executive editor of Petroleum News, wrote the book entitled: “Sarah Takes On Big Oil” .

    This is a must read for anyone who wants to understand the leadership Sarah Palin has exhibited in the area of reforming government and industry.

    http://www.amazon.com/Sarah-takes-Big-Oil-compelling/dp/0982163207
    or
    http://product.half.ebay.com/Sarah-Takes-on-Big-Oil-by-Kristen-Nelson-and-Kay-Cashman-2008-Hardcover/71269107&cpid=13906976712008-Hardcover/71269107&cpid=1390697671

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Thank you, ZH, and good morning!!

      • ZH100

         You are welcome, Brianus and good morning!

    • carolyn50

       we need to get her accomplishments in booklet form and sent out to voters across the country – especially to minorities and women.  if we could find a sponsor to help pay for the printing, I would be glad to help with this project.  we could get them printed and each one of us give them out to everyone one we meet, sarah’s numbers will rise and she will become the nominee in 2016.

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        I love this idea, Carolyn … sort of a booklet form of ZH’s wonderful posts!!

      • celestiallady

        Great Idea – hope someone has ideas on the printing.

        • M_Minnesota

          or electronic/interactive

      • ZH100

        There is a excellent list of Gov. Palin’s executive accomplishments put together by Whitney Pitcher and Stacy Drake.

        http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/06/governor-palins-executive-accomplishments.html
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        There is also Devito’s excellent "Complete Lifetime of Accomplishments"

        http://us4palin.com/accomplishments/
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        I hope that in the short term the movie "The Undefeated" becomes available for You Tube.

      • M_Minnesota

        booklet and or electronic form/interactive

  • Pete Petretich

    So how many Romney staffers will be hired by MSNBC to further undermine the Republican party?

    Kevin Madden? Andrea Saul?

    • Garym

      Nicely played!

  • BrianusBerkleianus

    My Dear Friends in Sarah,

    Happy Thursday to you all!!

    Below is an old post on one of the pages of her beautiful book, Going Rogue. I think and hope that you will find it interesting to read either for the first time or for a second time.

    The Governor has been prepared, I think, in a special way in both the PRACTICAL and MORAL/ETHICAL realms for the great mantle that, as so many of us believe, will soon be laid upon her shoulders and her soul.

    Also, we may observe how, to cite the Psalmist, OMNIA SERVIUNT TIBI–All things serve Thee (the Lord)/All things are in Thy service–willy-nilly, volens/nolens.

    We can look at the actions of Governor Frank Murkowski of Alaska in this passage. We can consider Senator McCain’s decision and choice in the fateful month of August, 2008.We can examine the action of a portion of the American People on Tuesday, who somehow chose a person like barack obama for a second term in the Presidency.

    All these things serve the Divine Plan.

    ALL MEN AND WOMEN SERVE THE ALL-HIGHEST LORD.

    Those who try, according to their best lights and intentions, to serve Him in love, do so unto their glory.

    Those who foolishly pursue their own unjust and harmful paths, and act from hatred and spite and enmity, still serve the Eternal Purposes, still move their chess pieces on the Divine Chessboard, but they do so only to their own ruin.

    I trust Him and I trust the Governor.

    I firmly believe that the events of the last four-plus years are working towards, are coalescing towards, a great and mighty fruit and result!!

    God bless you all always!!

    DEO VOLENTE, SARAH 2016!!!

    Brianus

    OLD POST ON P. 96 OF GOING ROGUE

    PAGE NINETY-SIX

    On p. 96 of GR, Sarah continues her discussion of her appointment by Governor Frank Murkowski as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (AOGCC). She writes, "I began commuting into Anchorage five days a week, diving headlong into a learning curve that would deepen my knowledge of Alaska’s energy resources, the energy problems facing the country, and the close relationships clouding judgment on both.

    "When Murkowski tapped me for the commission, he quickly named me chairman. That meant I also became the ethics supervisor of the staff, a job that turned out to be more than just a compliance title. When a staffer hinted right away that [Randy] Ruedrich seemed to spend a lot of time running the Republican Party from his new AOGCC office, plus dealing with GOP operatives as a National Republican Committeeman, I mentioned it to the party boss-slash-commissioner."

    As we all know, the conflict created by Ruedrich’s abuse of his office, and the failure of anyone to do anything about Sarah’s protests, eventually compelled her to resign from the AOGCC, rather than be placed in the position of "winking at" Ruedrich’s violations.

    It is interesting to notice where the Good Lord placed the Governor at this point in her life and in her career.

    She was situated in a job where she received a fast education in energy issues and in ethics issues.

    She may not have fully realized it at the time, but she was being trained, on "the field of battle," in just those two areas of combat that are so critical to the entire nation right now: Energy security and independence, on the one hand, and ethical/moral issues on the other hand.

    Just as physical and moral strength are required for an individual to survive (mens sana in corpore sano–a sound mind in a sound body), so the FREE FLOW of ENERGY, and the FREE FLOW of TRUST and GOOD FAITH between citizens is required for the "body politic" to survive.

    If our energy sources dry up, we will not survive as a Free People.

    If trust and good faith and ethical/ moral bonds between citizens are not preserved and maintained, we will not survive as a Free People.

    Sarah refers above to "diving headlong into a learning curve" about energy issues. She learned well, and she is clearly and indisputably one of the world’s experts on energy issues, and will carry this precious knowledge and expertise with her into the White House.

    Just as importantly, she is now a savant in ethical issues.

    But there is a difference.

    In learning about energy, it was a question of ACQUIRING doctrine and experience and expertise. This is the nature of what we might call "intellectual" education: You absorb and digest the subject matter.

    Her ethical training was different.

    In a sense, in lieu of ACQUIRING something she had to LOSE something: She had to resign her lucrative six-figure salary in order to "sleep well," as she says.

    The irony involved in winning this kind of knowledge and wisdom is that you must first lose something …

    Ah, but the gain, the rewards later on are, dare I say it, the Scriptural "hundred-fold"!!!

    Because of her sacrifice for principle, The Governor has become a shining and luminous example and inspiration to tens of millions of Americans!!!

    She followed the paths of the Lord perfectly, IMHO, in the station where He placed her: LEARNING about energy issues, and LIVING OUT moral/ethical issues!!

    Praise be to Divine Providence, the Providence that used Governor Murkowski, whatever his personal motives were, to place Sarah in this position of learning and of suffering, of doctrine and of dolor!!!

    In the same way, we may thank the same Providence for using Senator McCain, whatever his motives were, to make Sarah the VP candidate of the GOP in ’08–she was revealed to the whole nation at the critical moment of obama’s seeming total triumph with his DNC acceptance speech in Denver, when discouraged patriots everywhere needed the lift and boost and inspiration that the Governor provided–and provides to this very day and hour!!

    Now, in spite of years of vicious lies; in spite of years of horrible slanders; in spite of years of hateful propaganda, she is poised to become one of our greatest presidents ever, and will provide luminous leadership on energy and ethics issues, as in all else.

    Deo Gratias–Thanks be to God!!!

    • wodiej

      Love how you framed this as God’s will to put her on a path to her purpose.  We see today, God sees down the road.  

      "I believe that I shall look upon the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living! Wait for the Lord; be strong, and let your heart take courage; wait for the Lord!"
      Psalm 27:14-15

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        Thanks!!

    • TexS2012

      Good morning Brian. Sarah Palin is the kind of leader and President our country needs, God Willing. It’s a wonder how God works in our lives.

      Sarah Palin, a leader, a "President - for all the people!" Many politicians claim they can unite the country and solve our problems but once they are in power, it never happens. We know power corrupts and it’s destroying our country, our sacred instutitions and the people feel hopeless anything will ever be done about it.
      Many of us have been saying for years, when are "The Republicians" or "Conservatives," "Anybody" – going to do something about our government! But nothing changes, government gets bigger and bigger and crushes us with taxes and rules and regulations. As a result, the leaders in our two party system fight for power, and so it goes…

      We’ve all heard that "the people perish where there is no vision or revelation." Proverbs 29:18.
      A "President for all the People" must have vision like our Founders who wrote our sacred documents, formed our Constitution, and be unwavering in moral character for the short time they hold power as well as their whole life. I believe Sarah’s vision is to serve the people, her country, and uphold the Constitution in the way our Founders set us on this course. We’ve seen what Sarah Palin could do for Alaska in a very short time and she had the people behind her supporting her! We must trust God and Sarah Palin deserves our trust also. We need to let her lead and we will follow.

      Be happy, no doom, no gloom, "be happy and let your enemies know it!" Go forth and seize the day! Follow Sarah’s lead.  God Bless!

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        God bless, TexS!!!

        Sarah 2016!!

  • ZH100

    Long before "public spending" became a topic of national debate Gov. Palin has fought to reduce spending and to enforce fiscal discipline as governor of Alaska.

    Gov.Palin has drastically reduced the growth of the state budget, which has helped to produce a record budget surplus.
    Alaska had its bond rating raised to AAA for the first time in the state’s history, largely due to fiscal improvements brought about by Sarah Palin while she was governor.

    Some links with information about Gov.Palin’s (impressive) fiscal record.
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    ‘Palin’s Jobs Record Beats All Others in the GOP Field’

    From the article:

    "In terms of bringing down state unemployment rates versus the national average, Palin leads all other governors and former governors in the GOP field"

    http://pa4palin.blogspot.nl/2011/07/palins-jobs-record-beats-all-others-in.html
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    ‘Governor Palin–Leading the Fight on Debt and Liabilities ; comparing and contrasting the records of Governors Palin, Perry, Pawlenty, Romney, and Huntsman in dealing with state debt and liabilities’

    http://blogontheprairie.blogspot.com/2011/08/governor-palin-leading-fight-on-debt.html
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    Sarah Palin: A Record of Fiscal Conservatism (Part 1)

    From the article:

    "Sarah Palin served as Mayor/City Manager of Wasilla, Alaska from October 14, 1996 to October 14, 2002. As such, Palin was responsible for preparing, submitting, and executing the City’s annual budget for fiscal years 1997 through 2003. During this seven-year period, the City’s General Fund averaged an annual surplus of roughly $2.5 million, as illustrated in the chart below. Palin inherited a surplus of just $350,000 from her predecessor John Stein (fiscal year 1996). By 2003 she had grown the surplus to almost $3 million, with a 22.4% increase in revenue and a 15.6% reduction in spending."
    http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/2011/06/sarah-palin-record-of-fiscal.html
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    Sarah Palin: A Record of Fiscal Conservatism (Part 2)

    From the article:

    "Sarah Palin served as Governor of the State of Alaska from December 4, 2006 to July 26, 2009. As such, Palin exercised authority over the State’s annual budget for fiscal years 2008, 2009, and 2010. At the end of fiscal year 2007, Gov. Frank Murkowski, Palin’s immediate predecessor (whom she defeated in the 2006 Republican gubernatorial primary), left the State’s General Fund with a balance of roughly $7.6 billion. During the three fiscal years for which Gov. Palin oversaw the budget, the General Fund averaged an annual surplus of more than $2.6 billion, resulting in a total increase of $7.9 billion ? more than 100% ? over the fiscal year 2007 balance."
    http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/2011/06/sarah-palin-record-of-fiscal_08.html
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    Sarah Palin: A Record of Fiscal Conservatism (Part 3)

    From the article:

    "Requests for federal earmarks declined dramatically in each of the fiscal years for which Sarah Palin exercised budgetary authority for the State of Alaska. In FY2007, Gov. Frank Murkowski requested $350 million in federal appropriations, which Gov. Palin reduced to $256 million in FY2008, $198 million in FY2009, and $69 million in FY2010. Overall, Palin cut earmark requests by more than 80% during her tenure as Governor."
    http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/2011/06/sarah-palin-record-of-fiscal_523.html
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    ‘Governor Palin on the Issues: Monetary Policy’

    From the article:

    "Governor Palin stands firmly against the actions of the federal government in policies which simultaneously devalue our dollar, drive up our debt and leave us dependent on foreign sources of energy. She also stands against the actions of the Fed which inflate prices at a time when Americans are already on tight budgets and do nothing to aid employment."

    http://conservatives4palin.com/2010/11/governor-palin-on-the-issues-monetary-policy.html
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    Another credit rating agency, Standard and Poor’s upgraded Alaska’s credit rating to its highest possible rating of AAA. The agency gives several reasons why it felt confident enough in Alaska’s fiscal climate to make such an upgrade. A few of these reasons are due directly to the policies implemented by Governor Palin.

    http://palin4america.com/2012/01/alaska-has-three-as-its-name-and-now-so-does-its-credit-rating/
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    Paul Gigot: Governor Palin “Leading the Pack” on Monetary Policy (November ,2010)

    From the article:

    "In a Wall Street Journal editorial the editors noted the degree of sophistication Governor Palin is bringing to the table as she attempts to focus the nation’s attention on the disastrous repercussions which must result from a further inflating of the currency.

    Specifically, she referred to QE2, the Fed’s plan to pump another $600 billion to as much as $1 trillion into the economy via the purchase of U.S. government securities. Paul Gigot, editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page, discusses the editorial and Governor Palin in the video."

    http://online.wsj.com/video/opinion-journal-palin-vs-bernanke/6A8B3973-6069-464E-B48B-4D4564C96DE5.html

    http://conservatives4palin.com/2010/11/paul-gigot-governor-palin-leading-the-pack-on-monetary-policy.html
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    Palin v. Bernanke.
    Her Warning To the Fed Chairman Puts Her Out in Front on the Debate on the Dollar

    From the article:

    "One of the questions in respect of 2012 is how it has happened that the only major Republican figure, aside from Congressman Ron Paul, to stand up and be counted on the dollar is Sarah Palin."

    http://www.nysun.com/editorials/palin-v-bernanke/87128/

  • ZH100

    ‘Setting the Record Straight – Sarah Palin and Sex Education’

    From the article:

    "NPR got it wrong back in 2008. As did the The Washington Post, MSNBC, ABC News and The Wallstreet Journal .Unfortunately, many feminists have followed the misinformation of the mainstream media."

    http://www.thenewagenda.net/2010/05/02/setting-the-record-straight-sarah-palin-and-sex-education/

  • wodiej

    "Do not cast away your confidence which has great reward."  Hebrews 10:35

    Dear Heavenly Father, help us to look ahead and stay on the path that you need us to walk on to accomplish the purpose you have for us.  I ask this in your name, Amen.

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Thank you, wodiej, and good morning!

      • wodiej

        good morning sir, you’re welcome.  :)

  • celestiallady
    • stlouisix

      If this is true, none of this happened by accident, i.e. we’re dealing with a communist tyrant who despises our military in undercutting them at every opportunity by forcing them to fight PC wars, and disenfranchising their votes in the knowledge that they would be overwhelmingly against him.  This needs to be investigated, and the truth that is being suppressed demands to be brought to light for the sake of those whom Obama considers nothing but cannon fodder to further his anti-American agenda!   The sad hard truth is that our military has been corrupted by the Obamunists at its highest levels, but what is reported here cannot be tossed under the rug.  Too many have fallen for that to happen!

      For anyone to concede early in light of what the Obamunists are capable of is unconscionable given what’s at stake! We owe our military more than that!

      • celestiallady

        There is just so much that is corrupt. I am fearful that we are being outnumbered by this. We can only try to get it out there.

        • NoMoreMeh

          c-lady,

          I say the following NOT TO DISCOUNT the VERY real disenfranchisement of military voters, since we all know it does exist — but this is why satire is so biting and effective: it is usually derived from aspects of real events, etc.

          You are apparently unaware that The Duffel Blog is a satire/ parody/ military humor/ faux news site.

          Read its ‘about’ page:
          http://www.duffelblog.com/about/

          The link you gave in your comment sourced The Duffel Blog for its story.

          The Duffel Blog is satire and parody.  Effective satire, too, as it has often duped the LSM.

          • celestiallady

            Well tahnks no I did not know

            • NoMoreMeh

              YW

  • IsraeliCojones
    • celestiallady

      You beat me to it IC  – good morning.

      • IsraeliCojones

         Good morning :)

    • Guest

      This is what stinks to high heaven: That Michael Barone was wrong! He is a genius when it comes to crunching numbers down to specific counties.

      I read his article of why Barone said he was wrong and I don’t effin believe it.

      The kabuki theater that Tokyo Rove exhibited on Fox of not wanting to concede was an Academy Award winning performance. You really should read about how Rove cheated in Ohio in 2004. He is a Machiavellian POS who cheated before he ever got hooked up with GHW Bush. That’s how he came to his attention.

      That said, I do not wear a tin foil hat and I can’t stand Etch-a-sketch.

      The Bush mafia knew that Romney was the perfect foil and that he would concede.

      Allen West won’t back down so easily.

      This war starts now. No Jeb Bush and no Marco Rubio.

      • mark1955

        Great points on Rove. Especially about Roves little pretend act in not wanting to concede. He thinks that little bit of mis-direction will throw us off the scent of his and the repub establishments collaboration with the dems,in cheating to give Obama another four years. Wrong! we are onto you Rove.

      • IsraeliCojones

        I’ve been saying all along that they wanted to give a second term to Obama, and it’s not about Jeb or whoever creep they want to promote next time.

        It is about Obama. It is about Globalism. It is about Eternal Statism

        They have to be destroyed.

        • celestiallady

          wish I could like this a thousand times. You are so right.

        • Guest

           GHW Bush wants one world order too. I’m sorry but until conservatives realize that the GOPe is just a corrupt nothing will ever be fixed.

          There is only one party in this country. The party of "Big Government!" It’s all about power.

          • IsraeliCojones

            Oh, I agree. I was talking of this term. After that, you’ll be screwed anyway (and they know it), Jeb or not Jeb. (sorry to put it so harshly).

            They needed this guy this time.

          • AmsterdamExpat

            To simplify just a little, and to be frank, I see just two likely alternatives to the horrible Behemoth that is now revealing itself in Washington, D.C. in increasingly open disregard of the Constitution: either a drastic turn back the original Federal structure of our national government (the return to "states’ rights" — and states’ responsibilities — has to be a major part of any "sudden and relentless reform" on the national level (the 17th Amendment may have to be revoked)), or the USA as such breaks up.

            • Terry Malpass

              17th Amendment:  Not "may" but NEEDS to be repealed.

              If the 17th  was not in place, we would not have Obamacare and a bunch of other mandates from the NATIONAL government. 

              We don’t have a Senate. There is not a body in DC to speak for the states, which was the original purpose of the Senate. Senators don’t answer to their states, they only answer to their national parties.

              We have a National Socialist government at this time, not a Federal Republic.

        • AmsterdamExpat

          The "political class" in various countries (why not call it the "ruling oligarchy" instead?), including the USA, does indeed worship the state, and all the more to the extent that it’s done away with any real "checks and balances" on its power. O’s rule by fiat, the Constitution in letter and spirit notwithstanding, is perfectly acceptable to this class; all their protests about what they alleged Bush was doing to the Constitution are shown retrospectively to have been hypocritical at best. (Something which was rather obvious even then, in media res.)

          It is their religion: on this point they are anything but "atheist." But there’s a good objection to this: it’s the worst of all possible beliefs, to put the point in Voltairese. I’m with you: écrasez l’infâme!

          • IsraeliCojones

            écrasez l’infâme!

            It’s gonna take a while…

            PS: Have a good day, dear :)

            • AmsterdamExpat

              By the way, IC, thanks for the story you drew to my attention yesterday.
               
              The Prophets in the Bible and their latter-day descendants are admirable not least for their distinctive combination of serenity and spirit — their calm defiance.

              • IsraeliCojones

                I’m glad you saw it. :)

        • wisetrog

          they won’t be destroyed if well-meaning people like you give in and start promoting romney if only because obama is worse.

          • IsraeliCojones

            deleted – what’s the point anyway?

        • lanahi

          The GOP wants Obama to take as much power as possible for himself and grow the power of the government beyond belief…then they can step in later and reap the rewards.

          • IsraeliCojones

            … and since the Democrats are the best of the best on those matters, it’s no problem for them to concede the WH. Especially to a True Believer like Obama.

          • mark1955

            Yes,Yes,Yes!

        • mark1955

          It is about Jeb also,because the Bush family is entirely about a,"New World Order,One World Government"…Entirely. Obama is an evil punk. But he couldn’t organize a one car funeral. The same Oligarch’s: The Rotschild’s,Morgan banking Family,the Rockefeller,Bill Gates,Soros etc. etc.are the same one’s behind their lieutenants:Bush/Clinton/Obama and of those people the Bush’s are much higher on the One world government pecking order. The Bush family is 100% in agreement with what Obama is doing.

    • mark1955

      Great you posted the entire link. Please pass it on to your fellow Countrymen as proof that us Americans haven’t lost our collective minds. If this election was on the level,Obama would have been destroyed.

    • wodiej

      Unfortunately, I believe corruption was the case to ensure obama had 4 more years to push his agenda. It was well thought out and will be difficult to prove.

      My only hope is to continue in fervent prayer and hope that God brings obama, jarrett and everyone else involved in the theft of taxpayer dollars and American freedom to be brought into the public square to be shamed and punished.  obama has been doing this since his early years and I long for God to hold him accountable.  I will remain vigilant and patient for that day. I hope others will do so as well.

  • celestiallady
    • wodiej

      thank you for sharing that.  I wonder how many of Romney’s critics will read that instead of blaming him for something I believe was not his fault. While some are blaming him that he did not do his best or was not the appropriate candidate, I am thankful that he took on the task knowing how difficult it would be to defeat the corruption of his opponents. Gov. Palin understands-she’s been there. God bless him for at least trying.  Now we must look forward.

      • celestiallady

        And thank you for sharing your thoughts. Yesterday as so many trashed Romney before they could even give it a few days I wondered how long it would be before the facts come out. While Romney was never my first choice I wanted to believe in him in order to defeat the devil. I still believe he would have made a good president for this country under the circumstances. It is sad – that is my best expression for all of this.

  • mark1955

    Good morning. This election’s results stink to high heavens and is already being claimed to give Obama a mandate to pass his marxists agenda that the American people don’t want.

     Boehner has moved to work out a deal on raising taxes. He’s going through a little kabuki and pretending to hem and haw and put up a fight but as we all know from past actions,he’ll cave as planned.

      Perhaps worse,according to an article in Reuters the day after the election,Obama has already called for the UN to start new discussions on the Small Arms Gun Ban Treaty. Don’t ever forget,the monsters in both parties can’t enslave and murder us,untill they get our Firearms. That’s why we will never give them up. You got that Obama,Boehner Bush,Napolitano,Holder Bloomberg you Bleeping morons. You can threaten us with any jail time and penalties you want,we ain’t giving up one Firearm,one magazine,not one round no matter how many elections you rig to give yourself a phony mandate.

     This is why it is extremely important for us to get the word out on the lack of legitimacy of tuesday’s Presidential election and that Obama actually has no mandate. We can’t allow people to start saying,"Well election’s have consequences" when they have been obviously fixed.

      Polling places were packed tuesday,lines were out the door according to reports from most precints,there was beautiful weather for the most part across the country and yet less votes were cast then there were in 2008 and 2004 and turnout was down in every state. That should have harmed Obama and prior data had all the enthusiasm going Romney’s way and somehow Obama won. Obama won re-election in nearly every battleground state. What the Bleep!

     According to the "White House Insider" of the site "The Ulsterman Reports": "I’m going over the numbers state by state.County by county. Had all of that looking so good for us a week ago. Last night not adding up". WHI added: "This is f-ckin Venezuela ( Cheating ) we got here". "But i said they could steal it. And that is what might have happened". He continues: "But to pull that off in so many states means they got help". "Talking from both sides here get it"? "Republicans". "And that is scary". "If we are that far gone than what the h-ll are we supposed to do about that"? "When those Senators  ( Republicans )  dropped Benghazi i got real worried real fast". I felt like a deal had been made". "I know localized fraud but a multiple state millions of vote level of fraud to pull that offwould be incredibly risky and require help from the opposition ( Republicans ) ". What WHI who is high up in dem politics and who loathes Obama is saying is, this is probably massive voter fraud and would have required republican collaboration at a minimum. Nothing else explains it.

     This vote in no way reflects the true sentiment of the American people. That’s why we can’t let this illigitamacy be used to justify a massive leftward expansion of the government. I listened to that Bleephead Rush Limbaugh today,for the first time since the summer of 2011 debt ceiling fight. Right on cue he was carrying water for his repub establishment buddies. Rush said ( I’m paraphrasing ) "We have to face facts and realize that the country has changed permanently". Bulshe. By pushing that phony meme for the establishment it legitimizes a phony election and gives the repub party a false reason to swing left and abandon Conservatives. Geez,wouldn’t that help Rush’s buddy Jebbie? sarc.

     Now we can’t change the election results. But we can inform the American people about the fraudulent nature of this election,thereby preventing them from curling up in a fetal position and just accepting this with the old,"Elections have consequences" routine. We can use this corruption by the Elites,to stir up the people so they’ll fight even harder against the Establishments leftwing agenda. We have to spread the word on this fraud fast. Lest Obama and the repubs will cram every piece of marxism down our throats and fast!

  • Pete Petretich

    Has Karl Rove tried to blame the loss on Sarah and the Tea arty yet?

    Wasn’t that exactly what many of us were expecting last year?

    Will Rove instead "go big" and blame Chrispy Creme?

    Wouldn’t that be ironic?

    • c4pfan

      Not yet.  But, Coulter has!

  • Pete Petretich

    Whitney Pitcher just Tweeted this 1975 article from Margaret Thatcher:

    http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/102600

    The similarity with this week is remarkable…

    • colliemum

      Kudos for linking to this article by Margaret Thatcher!

      Yes, the similarities are remarkable – but also what happened four years later, after the country had been ruined: Margaret Thatcher was elected in 1979 – and the rest is history.

  • John_Frank

    Earlier this morning, I posted a comment raising the question "was the election stolen?"

    People can read the comment here:

    http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/11/open-thread-473.html#comment-703751152

    In the comment I reference the recent posts at Ulsterman Reports, along with related data, in an effort to sort out whether what is being raised is a legitimate concern, or simply "smoke."

    One additional point. It seems that some of the information being provided on The Ulsterman Reports is the result of individuals reading the posts on The Lame Cherry Blog, or at least so the author of that blog claims.

    In any event and with the usual caveat warning:

    2012 Election Theft Thread
    http://lamecherry.blogspot.ca/2012/11/2012-election-theft-thread.html

    Obama Scytlgate

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.ca/2012/11/obama-scytlgate.html

    The problem I have, if you read my original comment is whether we have entered the realm of "moonbatery."

    It is easy to say that Romney lost because the vote was fixed, etc., etc.

    It makes the world much easier to understand, instead of the reality that the world we live in can be messy and at times a very ugly.

    So, while the blog posts make for fun reading, please treat with great care and remember that it is always darkest before the dawn.

    One final thought and this deals with the question of impeaching Obama over Benghazi.

    To say that many past and present members of America’s Armed Forces are appalled and furious over what happened at Benghazi and how the Obama media treated the story before the election is likely an understatement.

    I suspect this story will not go away until the whole sordid mess is dragged out of the clutching hands of the Obama administration and placed before the public.

    Whether it will ultimately result in Obama being impeached is an open question, but I strongly suspect that when the full story is put before the American people Obama may well wish that he had lost the election.

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Thanks, JF!!

      I wonder if it might become practically impossible for obama to function as commander-in-chief if vast segments of the Armed Forces come to regard him as illegitimate, not necessarily (though possibly) on LEGAL grounds, but on MORAL grounds.

      A person who abandoned Americans, especially NAVY SEALS, to death, simply has no MORAL mandate to command anyone, even he continues (perhaps) to legally hold office.

      Could–a stretch–but could Speaker Boehner (RINO) be a place-holder for Sarah if obama and biden are impeached or are compelled, by the weight of the evidence against the "administration," to RESIGN.

      We must pray and pray, especially for the safety of Sarah, Allen West, and so many others.

      LONG LIVE THE ARMED FORCES OF AMERICA!!

    • AmsterdamExpat

      I’m with you on the matter of electoral fraud: it probably occurred, and those instances where there are concrete indications that it did, must be investigated in a convincing, i.e., objective manner, with particular attention to the specific vulnerabilities of the electronic apparati (hopefully the Breitbart people will do so), and yet we shouldn’t turn this issue into a wild-goose chase. (As Devito says in his post, "We need to stop wasting our time on mindless conspiracy theories of all stripes and the toxic debates that surround them.")
       
      I strongly suspect that when the full story is put before the American people Obama may well wish that he had lost the election. I think you’ll be borne out on this, especially if, as one hears, the Clinton camp has its dossiers on the matter of Benghazi and the attempt to cover up what happened ready to be leaked, in an effective and anonymous manner, as one would expect of that bunch.

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        Thanks, Amsterdam

        BTW, it has beeen GREAT to see you here in the last few days!

        I hope all is well.

        God bless!!

        • AmsterdamExpat

          Thanks, Brianus — I really needed a break, and now, with this result, I’ll probably become a "lurker" again (as after November 2008) until significant moves are made in Wasilla and/or by e.g. Allen West; or until something that’s both unexpected and major occurs (as it well might in connection with the Benghazi question).

          • BrianusBerkleianus

            :-) !!

    • mark1955

      I’m a regular reader of both "Ulsterman" and "Lame cherry" so thanks for posting. Also,lest i forget, your mention of the European voting firm,"SCTYL", reminds me to give a big shoutout to that establishment phony Michelle Malkin. Lame Cherry had mentioned awhile back that Malkin had posted a piece on her site months ago,down playing the role that SCYTYL would play in regards to voter fraud in the general election.This even though SCYTYL’S original owner had been murdered and George Soros was knee deep in that company.Add to this,every election that SCYTYL has been involved in internationally,has resulted in victory for the leftwing candidate. Go figure. Way to call em MichelleYour bought and paid for by the establishment Malkin.Admit it. your pal Limbaugh too. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/RXW3P4NK7TPMMJRIE7TFCTOTEI Vicki

      I think it is more about stupidity, unfortunately. And that is a word I really seldom use. I teach a painting class that has a lot of older people in it (people who should know better.) On Monday two of them were really pushing Obama. Wednesday I came in before class to prepare and those two were chatting. Both of them complaining about the people who were "on the dole". I said to them, you guys were in here supporting Obama on Monday telling me that’s who I should vote for (as the professor, I carefully guard my political positions). The man started ranting about how Republicans don’t care about jobs, they’re going to send those jobs to China so they can make money. The woman said she voted for obama because Romney wouldn’t show his tax returns and she didn’t trust him because of that. Even though as we continued to talk she basically had a conservative ideology on most issues. These are intelligent people who should be able to put two and two together.
      A lot of people get stuck in a party just like they get stuck in a religious denomination. Monday night I tried to talk to my dad, a minister, about voting conservative. And he started blabbing about how republicans based their philosophy on an aethist woman who advocated leaving the unproductive people out in the cold to die (Ayn Rand, I guess). I just stopped. He won’t see that his party booed God out of their platform, advocates for abortion and gay marriage, both of which he adamantly opposes. He just rants about how republicans are hypocrits and war mongers.
      So there you go.
      I think things have to get four more years bad before some of these people will wake up and smell the coffee. And some of them never will.

  • OldPat

    Crosspost

    Saw where a couple of states legalized Mary Jane – no, not the union, the plant.  And it reminded me of the good ole nights in Nam when I was working night shift.

    About 10PM when I’d go outside to stretch my legs and get a breath of fresh air, the entire firebase would be enveloped by a haze of blue smoke.

    The lifers on one side drinking, potheads on the other side smoking and me in the middle trying to keep what sanity I still had.  And everyone just doing their best to keep the nightmares at bay until dawn arrived.

    Now from half a world away and half a century later, the nightmare has reached our shores.

    It’s now half pas six, dawn has arrived and it’s time to find out just who and what we are as a people. 

    Time to stretch my legs, get a breath of cool fresh air and decide which fork in the road I’m gonna take.

  • celestiallady

    On the way to work this morning I listen to local talk radio. they were discussing how one of the most popular google searches before the election was: Are you ready for this?   Who is running for president?  Now if that isn’t a sad sad thing.

    • jester2939

      Well, one thing’s for sure. If Sarah were running, everyone would know it, lol!!!

  • ZH100
  • James A. Tyler

    I can’t believe Michele Bachmann held onto her seat but West lost. West is far more deserving than Bachmann is.

    Hopefully, though, Jon Ziegler will make Media Malpractice II and focus on the media’s fixation on Obama and ostracism of Romney and develop a cheap, animal-like, lustful obsession with Paul Ryan for years on end.

    • generictrainee

      Ziegler’s general envy and bitterness over Palin aside, his two latest pieces in huffpo are good.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-ziegler/a-conservatives-take-the-_b_2074122.html

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-ziegler/romney-loss-conservative-media_b_2084911.html

      No Palin bash.

      • James A. Tyler

        Wow… just wow. He didn’t blame Palin for Romney’s loss? A few months earlier, he was outright accusing her of rooting for a Romney loss. Shocking.

      • jester2939

        Thanks, but no thanks. That dude just doesn’t seem stable to me.

        • http://www.solitudebooks.com/ Dan C

          I agree. The guy has major issues. 

          • James A. Tyler

            He can’t seem to make up his mind whether or not he’s a conservative, libertarian, or liberal. He said at the end of Media Malpractice that he was a libertarian, I believe. But, he consistently identifies himself as a conservative, as in the title of the first article. I even recall him identifying as a liberal, once. He does have major issues, specifically with women, and although he says that he expected Romney to lose, let’s not forget his article entitle "Romney is by far the most electable." I rest my case… what a schizo.

    • Terry Malpass

      Bachmann was never a threat to GOPe.  

      West makes them quake. Thus, he was redistricted out by his own party.

    • gahanson

      I’m not sure what the fasination with West is all about.  If there is anyone more establishment, follow orders from the top, and obey all the rules, it’s a retired military officer.  I didn’t see or hear of him doing anything special during his term in office, matter of fact, a lot of TEA Party people who worked so hard for him were deeply disapponted, because he just fell into line behind Beahner, and the others.

    • barracuda43

      Both were very deserving. Not sure why some want to diss Bachman. She has a 100% conservative voting record and in the big issues at crisis time has had some great ideals. Like we will raise the debt limit if Obama care is repealed along with it. Super ideal which got about 20 conservatives supporet in the house. It seems that some want to rip her for running for president which is ridiculos since it is a free country and she is eleigible to run

  • BrianusBerkleianus

    Guys, we cannot, IMV, underestimate the power of BLOOD that has been shed heroically for friends, for flag, for country.

    What do obama and that vile, sick, revenge-minded demon, valerie jarrett, and all that filthy crowd have on their side right now?

    Control, for the moment, of the powerful apparatus of the Federal government;

    Money (stolen, "legally" and otherwise, from others);

    The sycophantic support of a traitorous media;

    The lapdog support of a vicious "academia" and "educational" system that, in lieu of educating students for virtue and truth, corrupts them.

    Lies.

    Deception.

    Slander.

    Cover-ups

    Thuggery.

    What do we have on our side, besides so many other people (Sarah!!) and factors?

    THE SHED BLOOD OF AN AMERICAN HERO, TYRONE WOODS, whose valiant and selfless act will, IMHO, draw down the Lord’s mercy upon our nation, AND WILL NOT PERMIT BENGHAZI TO BE COVERED UP BY LIARS, COWARDS, AND TRAITORS!!!

    SANGUIS EIUS ADHUC LOQUITUR–His Blood Speaks Still!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RXW3P4NK7TPMMJRIE7TFCTOTEI Vicki

    My coworker and I think she might run for senate in ’14. My coworker says AZ but I say AK.

    • Right_Wingnut

      Not a chance

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ory-Hebert/1583287180 Ory Hebert

        I think someone like Sarah would go crazy in the Senate.  Too much inaction.  

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/RXW3P4NK7TPMMJRIE7TFCTOTEI Vicki

          but it would give her the catapult to point that out. Which if you look at the polling, people basically hate congress

    • c4pfan

      Sarah isn’t leaving AK.

  • ZH100

    ‘Herman Cain Calls for Creation of Third Party’

    From the article:

    "Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is calling for the creation of a third political party — saying it is clear to him that neither major political party is willing to address the nation’s economic problems."

    http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/herman-cain-calls-for-creation-of-third-party.html

    • daisy_mae

      Thank you ZH!  Thank you too for so diligently listing Governor Palin’s accomplishments here at C4P.  I know she needs to be in the Oval Office but don’t know yet the path to get the Governor there.  I believe she does know, or will know, the steps necessary.  If it’s third party I’m all in!  But in any case I’m ready to follow her lead!  God bless you!!

      • ZH100

         You are welcome.

    • wodiej

      Sounds good to me. We not only have many Republicans and Democrats who don’t like what either side is doing, we have many Independents who feel the same way.  Nothing and no one is invincible against the power of God.  Together we can do this.  

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