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The Governor’s line at the 2008 GOP Convention about hockey moms and pitbulls is now one of "Bartlett’s Familiar Quotations."

"Track returns from Afghanistan soon."

One thing you may have noticed from many lists of potential presidential prospects for 2016 is the omission of the Governor’s name. Obviously, it’s a completely different feeling from this time in 2008 where you couldn’t mention 2012 without citing the Governor as a possible opponent for Barack Obama. She’s getting treated the same way Rudy Giuliani was treated after the 2008 election even though she didn’t run in 2012. I get the sense that some of these pundits, on the right and the left, are more likely to discuss Paula Broadwell and David Petraeus as potential candidates before they discuss Governor Palin as one.

Perhaps the change in focus will serve the Governor better in the lead-up to 2016 if she’s interested in running for the presidency. Until then, the best we can do as supporters is to keep on inserting her name in the conversation and make the case for why she’s better suited to face Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, or Andrew Cuomo than the other men and women who have been bandied about on our side.

I love how some moderate Republicans think it’s crazy to blame a loss in Ohio and Colorado on what Christopher Christie said in New Jersey but think it’s completely reasonable to believe that moderate Scott Brown’s blowout defeat in Massachusetts can be completely attributed to what Todd Akin said in Missouri.


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  • BrianusBerkleianus

    My Dear Friends in Sarah,

    Happy Tuesday to you all!!

    I would like to throw out an out-of-the box idea for your consideration this fine autumn morning. The Governor has never been a conventional or traditional politician; rather, she is a far-seeing stateswoman, who does things her own way ("I did it my way")… and her critics and enemies be damned.

    She should announce her run for the Presidency NOW!!

    OK, now that I have your attention :-), let me modify this statement a bit. She should declare her candidacy literally today, or, better, a couple of months from now, the night before or the night after obama’s second "inauguration."

    Here are a number of arguments to support such a move. Some of them may OVERLAP with others. Some or all of them may turn out, on examination, to bear little weight and merit. I am, after all, no political expert (Hell no!!), but just a simple citizen from Berkeley, California who hates what the Left is doing and has been doing to America for many years, and who loves America and loves our dear Sarah.

    We need to SHAKE things up, in my very humble opinion; Sarah needs, again IMHO, to shake things up–if the Good Lord so guides her.

    So, here goes:


    1) It IS an out-of-the-box idea, one that would stun and shake up the whole political Establishment. When one takes initiative, sudden and relentless initiative, in any field of human endeavor, one has psychological and mental momentum on one’s side.

    2) Such a move could UNITE CONSERVATIVES EARLY behind one candidate. It could forestall and block RINO efforts to do what they did this past election cycle: Set up several "stalking-horse" "conservative" candidates to divide our side, and allow the chosen RINO to come down the middle, as Romney did this last time.

    3) It would reward her millions of supporters, who waited so long for her to announce last time–and she never did. This time we would have the joy of a very early announcement.

    4) It would put immediate pressure on obama, on Speaker Boehner, and on the whole Federal government: The Cuda is watching you!!!

    5) It could bring back people to her banner that do like her, but were DISILLUSIONED when she did not run last time.

    6) She could start raising money right now, and organizing right now.

    7) The move could trick the Left and the RINOs into unloading their wrath EARLY on her–immediately upon her announcement they will go crazy, and attack, attack, attack; ridicule, ridicule, ridicule … and then the STORM will have passed, and she will be relatively immune from such attacks, because the public will be numbed from them, and such tactics will cease to resonate with many people when it counts–in 2016.

    8) She would thus make herself de facto head of the GOP, and especially the leader of the OPPOSITION to obama.

    9) She would constitute herself as the leader for the 2014 mid-term elections, in order to take back the Senate and consolidate the hold on the House–and maybe push for a new Speaker of the House.

    10) She would LIFT UP THE SPIRITS of millions of Americans, especially in the ARMED FORCES, who are severely demoralized by obama’s "reelection."

    11) It could head off any efforts to make the GOP a Democrat-lite Party, competing with the Dems in the giving away of "stuff."

    12) It would draw the fire of the Left on HERSELF, leaving, e.g., 2014 conservative Senate candidates relatively free from enemy fire.

    13) It could serve to distract obama from his mission to destroy America–Sarah has "lived in his head" since August/September, 2008, and really would after such a move.

    14) She would constitute herself as America’s SHADOW PRESIDENT, until we can formally oust the usurping regime in Washington, DC.

    15) She would thunderously raise RONALD REAGAN’S battle standard of BOLD COLORS, not PALE PASTELS.

    16) America, in the person of the Governor, would be standing up early, right at the start of obama’s second term, and saying, "We’re mad as Hell, and we won’t take this S*** anymore, ‘mr. president’!!!"

    17) It would serve as the casting down of AMERICA’S gauntlet, the SOUNDING OF AMERICA’S WARNING–We Shall Never Surrender!!

    18) If she announces the night before or after the "messiah’s" second inauguration, she would steal some of his thunder, in precisely the way that Senator McCain’s VP announcement on Sarah Palin Day, 29 August, 2008 in Dayton, Ohio, stole the thunder of obama’s "Styrofoam Greek columns" acceptance speech at the DNC in Denver the night before.

    19) If she simultaneously announces Lt. Col. Allen West as her VP choice, it would be a direct hit back at the new Congress, whose RINO leaders, through the device of redistricting, have tried to drive a great Patriot from the halls of Washington.

    20) IT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WASHINGTON’S CROSSING OF THE DELAWARE on Christmas Day, 1776. The British and their Hessian mercenaries were settled comfortably into winter quarters. They were not expecting a fight. Patriots were demoralized. Washington struck out across the Delaware, attacked the Hessians at Trenton, New Jersey, won a signal victory, lifted up the hearts of Americans everywhere, and saved the Revolution–by a BOLD and totally unexpected move!!

    Anyway, these are just some ideas for contemplation on a chill autumn morning.

    God bless you all always!!

    DEO VOLENTE, SARAH 2016!!!


    • blueniner

      Food for thought Brian, alot to digest………

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        :-) !!!

        • jerseymark

          Brianus – What a post! I would agree wholeheartedly with one change and that is that she is running for President under the banner of a Constitutional Conservative  third party which shall shortly be organized. This would be met with nervous laughter in the Republican Establishment and would likely get a lot of play in the media as they would assume that such a move would ensure a democrat victory in 2016. This would then give the Republican Party a chance to realize that either they get behind her as the Republican Nominee and demonstrate serious respect or they will not have a shot and maybe be replaced.

          • BrianusBerkleianus

            Thanks, Jerseymark!!

    • 1776er

      Careful now Brianus you are treading on thin ice here.  

      How can you presume to tell Sarah what she should do?   Pulllleeeeeze!

      Yeah, I’d buckle up today cuz you’re gonna get a few frownies on that score on this forum for this post.

      Needless to say, I agree about 99% with what you propose.  

      I don’t agree on the timing.  I would not try to "bigfoot" or step on Obama’s inauguration or his State of the Union address.  The press would just ignore her including and especially Faux News which will just have terminated her contract.  

      I believe Obama will unveil some startling new Marxist initiatives in the SOTU in order to distract Americans from the increasing misery they are feeling from the ongoing Obama recession.  Call them the Revenge Laws.  The media will be slavering all over them in righteous tingling and anticipation of administering a kill shot on the 1%ers and the Middle American religion and gun clingers in  fly over country.  Valerie Jarrett put it best:  "After we are safely re-elected it will be payback time.  We will reward our friends and punish our enemies."  That punishment will be outlined in the SOTU and rationalized by the mandate bestowed by his 332 to 206 electoral vote  "landslide".  

      SOTU in January promises to be one for the books.

      I would focus on Obama’s  FY 2014 Budget roll out which will come around the first week of February.  

      Obama is between a rock and a hard place right now.  

      The rock is the revenge against greedy old rich white men  he promised he would deliver to the 61.8 million strong race/class/gender coalition he formed with Alinskyite polarization techniques.  They now want their blood and their pound of flesh and they expect Obama to deliver.  It will be gory.  If it’s not gory enough it won’t satisfy Chris Matthews, Bill Maher, other assorted Hollywood kooks or the other 61.8 million members of the lynch mob.

      The hard place is the economy.  Obama had to be vague about the economy in his campaign.  He could hardly defend his stewardship or lack thereof of the economy.  So, he promised a two part "balanced" solution to our economic ills.  Balance?  

      Part 1 of the "Balanced Solution"  was sold as a massive tax increase on those making $250,000 and above for Marxist morality and "fairness" purposes and to make those greedy bastards play by the same rules as everybody else.  Check.  We heard that morality lesson ad nauseaum as the cornerstone of the class warfare leg of the race/class/ gender Alinskyite polarization triad throughout Obama’s divisive campaign. 

      Part 2 of the "Balanced Solution" is something we never saw or heard about. We never heard a single, solitary word about those prudent spending cuts.  That’s the hard place for Obama from here on out.  The FY 2014 Budget Roll Out is where the hard place comes to light.  It will shock a lot of revenge seekers who are going to have their ox gored just a little bit by the Messiah.  Some of the 61.8 million assembled mob will have their eyes opened but good.  

      One thing we can be certain of is that the shellshocked GOPE elites will have no fight left in them and they will roll over when Obama hands them the Budget in February.  There will be no "Dead on Arrival" proclamations from Boehner and McConnell this time around.. They will supinely submit to the will of the 51% 61.8 million mob and the Chicago Mob’s plans to finish the destruction of America.  There will be no resistance from the leadership of the Republican Party only a scramble for survival and a few crumbs of Pay for Play in the next 4 years.  Compromise and a bi-partisan recognition of the need to "heal and bring the country together" will be the rationale of the GOPE  quisling cave-in to the Marxist demands. 

      BTW, the word Islam means ‘Submission". If you don’t submit you die. We will see a lot of Islamist submission in practice in the Republican response to the Marxist Budget for FY 2014. Watch for the submitters. It will be shocking to many Republicans to see the list of submitters. It will be long and distinguished.

      A principled conservative response to that Marxist dictat document –The FY 2014 Budget –outlining the final destruction of the former United States of America is the place for a bold move.  It is the place where –like Colonel Travis at the Alamo –Sarah Palin could draw a line in the sand.  Who stands with me for the Constitution, the Republic, and the People of the the United States of America? 

      I’d put it about one week after the Budget release.

      Other than that I think you are spot on with your analysis.  From your lips to God’s ear.

      Thanks for posting this.

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        You are most welcome,1776er, and thanks for your thoughts.

        I tried to put my proposal in the most modest terms possible … no one, of course, will tell Sarah of Alaska what to do :-) … she will follow what her Lord and God wants her to do.

        God bless!!!

      • devitor

        The GOP must be purged of its existing establishment or all we’ll get is a repeat of what we got the last time. The conversation being about Sarah does no good if the party establishment refuses to support her. The existing establishment will NEVER support her. For Sarah to even think of running, she has to continue building a new establishment. We need an army of Ted Cruz’s and Deb Fischers. That was why supporting her down-tickets was so important. Every one of them who got in replaces an establishment hack in either party.

        The problem we have to solve is far bigger than making the conversation about her in 2016.

        For a ’16 run to be viable, Sarah’s going to have to really crank out the endorsements during this off-cycle – on the little offices – and the party bosses type positions and again in ’14 with the House and 1/3 of the Senate who come up. The cast of characters who would not support her in ’12 are not going to change, so they need to be changed – changed out the door.

        There’s that little Rule 12 thingy too. It needs to be nuked.

        I’m not inclined toward a third party, because that will only split the vote and possibly replicate the ills of the existing two parties. You don’t fix a problem by running away from it.

        Announcing a POTUS run now only gives both the Democrats and the GOPe a nice juicy target to hit for the next four years, because she will have already tipped her hand. As it is, they target her anyway without even running. The whole Game Change debacle should have been instructive of that.

        The goal of Sarah as POTUS is not a problem per se – but what is problematic is the laser-like focus on it while skipping the critical path steps that must be taken first before a run becomes viable.

        You cannot get to Point Z from A without first passing through B, C, and so on. So, how do we get to Z?

        I don’t have all the answers or pretend to, but propose the following as a starting point:

        1. Someone – perhaps SarahPAC – poll the people who stayed home or who pulled ballot shenanigans. We need hard data – scientific – on why these people stayed home. Not the opinion of me, or anyone else here on C4P. Hard data. Why did people stay home in such a critical election???? We need to know this. Precisely. Reagan did the poll. Why is it not being done now?

        1a. We base our strategy on the results.

        2. Work on abolishing Rule 12.

        3. For Sarah to continue her strategy of endorsements – but really amp it up – and focus also on behind-the-scenes players – the one we don’t hear about – to gut the GOP establishment from the inside out. Think of the three great purgatives in the symbolic sense: fire, water, Clorox. After the purge – rebuild. Bold Colors….

        3a. In 2014 via the House and Senate endorsements kill ObamaCare by de-funding. We lost the repeal line of attack now.

        4. For Sarah to build a war chest – QUIETLY. Get corporations behind her that will make the donations in the tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. Defense contractors, energy companies, and conservative-leaning companies who have made the news the past few years on social and economic issues – like Chick-Fil-A, and Papa John’s are entities to come straight to mind. POTUS campaigns are not won on $3, $5 and $20 donations or even $5K donations alone.

        5. For Sarah Palin to continue bringing herself to the mass market and to pop culture in NON-political venues and settings and in a positive way. The general public needs to see the real Sarah Palin so that the various caricatures can be dispelled. More appearances on shows like Today or DWTS and things like the fitness book and shows like Sarah Palin’s Alaska. Even leftists have fallen head over heels for her when they see the REAL Sarah and we’ve seen this over the past four years. We want people to know about Gov. Palin’s accomplishments, record, etc. But, we want the mass market to like and love Sarah – the person.

        6. Slow and steady. This is is like investing in small cap stocks. Long-term. Very risky.

      • Laddie_Blah_Blah

        Excellent analysis.  You and Brianus are much better at this than Rove, Madden, Schmidt, or any of the other overpaid hacks who are systematically destroying conservatism.

        The only real question is will Sarah do it?  She certainly can, and tens of millions would rally behind her.  She is really the only person who can unite the opposition and articulate a consistent, coherent message, while fracturing the Dem’s hold over the women’s vote, the key to their every victorious electoral coalition. 

        Sarah is the one and only game-changer on the national scene today.  She is the anti-establishment candidate at a time when the establishments of both parties have utterly failed their constituents.

        Do it Sarah.  We’ve got your back.

        • BrianusBerkleianus

          Thanks and AMEN, Laddie!!!

          And: A’s-Nats World Series 2013!!

          • bucky321

            nats choke as much as moderate repubs

    • RebinTexas

      WOW Brianus – that’s a great list…..I hope Chuck, Jr, sees and passes it on to his sister. There are many many of US who would support her, watch her back, work for her – her ideas and principles, and help in the charge. Am copying your list to use as the opportunity arises.

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        You are most welcome, Reb!!

        God bless.

    • Gary Anthony

      It is chill autumn morning here in Georgia, but I am in a warm house.  The chill or goose bumps you gave me just now has put some red hot coals on my before dieing fire.   And "76″ addition is one of many that will be added to your charge BB.  We love you man.  Sarah the door has been open.  Can someone tell me where I can get my Palin/West bumper stickers?  Thanks you Brianus.

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        You are most welcome, Gary!!

    • Al B.

      Brilliantly thought out, Brianus.

      Most importantly to me, a national grassroots campaign is a massive undertaking against an entrenched and well-funded foe.  This, to me, is the best argument to get started right now if she has any intentions at all.  Sarah Palin is no stranger to the concept of an early candidacy, as she wrote about in Going Rogue.

      In 2005, I was the first Republican to file for governor because I didn’t want to play the political "wait your turn in line" game to see if Murkowski, the incumbent, would seek reelection.  I knew I wouldn’t have the backing of the party machine anyway, so my reliance on a grassroots effort required an early edge before the other guys started lining up.

      Sarah Palin, Going Rogue p. 110

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        Thanks so much, Al, for the pertinent citation from Going Rogue!!

    • aaron66krohn

      Brian, long time no see!

      On November 6, I wrote the following, which, while having many differences to what you wrote above, still retains the same basic message.
      Here, verbatim, is what I wrote on November 6, one week ago. 
      (This was written late at night, AFTER we knew Obama had won his 2nd term!)

      The Path to Victory in 2016 (by Aaron Krohn)

      If she wants to become President on January 20, 2017, Sarah will need to do the following:

      1. Declare…as early as TOMORROW…but NO LATER THAN Inauguration Day of 2013…that she IS GOING TO run for President in 2016.

      2. In the next TWO YEARS…through the end of 2014…she needs to BUILD A CAMPAIGN STAFF, a PAC to raise campaign funds, and set forth WHAT SHE WILL DO as President!!!

      3. NO LATER THAN January 2015, Sarah needs to SIGN HER NAME to a LETTER of DECLARATION of CANDIDACY for President in 2016!!

      4. She MUST NOT OBFUSCATE, PROCRASTINATE, or DELAY this OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT…as she did all throughout 2011!!

      5. AS SOON AS she OFFICIALLY OPENS HER 2016 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, Sarah MUST START CAMPAIGNING!!  Make it a TWO YEAR campaign!!  Both Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama did this…SUCCESSFULLY!!  She needs that time to CONVINCE AMERICANS she’s GOING TO WIN!!!

      6. She needs to write a book, stating her POLICIES she would enact as President!!

      7. She needs to FOCUS ON CAMPAIGNING!!!

      8. She needs to do TWO mea culpas!!

      8A.  The first mea culpa would be her ADMITTING she MADE A GRIEVOUS ERROR by not running in 2012!!

      8B. The second mea culpa would be her ADMITTING that, as far as the PRESIDENCY goes, you DO need a TITLE to make a difference!!!

      Then…it’s ONWARD TO VICTORY!!!

      See, Brian, brilliant and FREE minds DO sometimes think (somewhat) alike!!  LOL

      Let me add a personal note.
      I WROTE IN Sarah Palin for President on my WA state ballot!!
      And I am proud to say so!!

      I think Sarah made a HORRIBLE error by first, not running, and second, by giving ANY kind of "support" to Romney!!
      Romney is the GODFATHER of Obamacare!!
      Since August 7, 2009, Sarah has been Obamacare’s NUMBER ONE ENEMY!!
      How could she possibly reconcile and explain supporting the GODFATHER of that which she most opposed for over three years??

      Also,I REFUSED all plea’s to donate to SarahPAC, including writing on one of their flyers that I would donate $$$$$ ONLY to a Sarah Palin Presidential Campaign Fund!!

      They never responded, but I kept on getting notices from them…INCLUDING getting the 2013 Sarah Palin Calendar!!  (It’s FABULOUS!!!!)

      I left C4P several months ago, because I couldn’t accept all the people here who had said "NEVER AGAIN!!" after 2008, then said they would "bite the bullet" one more time, because it had to be "ABO!!

      Well, MY philosophy became not only ABO…..but ABR (Anybody But Romney) as well!!!

      Thus, my write in vote for Sarah, and my staying away from C4P….except to briefly scan the day’s articles and comments!!

      Good luck with your (OUR!!!) idea to have Sarah run…..NOW!!

      Mozeltov, Brianus!!

      • colint

        Except for 8/ I agree with what you say. Sarah knew she could not win against the false image others had created and the $1b Romney could generate in his support. No apology and without a title she HAS had some influence.

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        Thanks, Aaron!!

        I do not agree with everything you said :-), but I love your fighting spirit!!  As Sarah has said, "No one expects us to agree on everything …"

        I too proudly wrote in Sarah’s name for President (and Allen West for VP) on my California ballot one week ago today

        God bless, friend.

        DEO VOLENTE, SARAH 2016!!!

      • devitor

        Let me get this straight:

        You refused to support SarahPAC – the money was earmarked for a run she chose not to make…but she didn’t do what you wanted her to do.

        You further told SarahPAC via your responses to go pound sand – you were waiting for her to run. Simply put, "to Hell with those down ticket candidates!" She endorsed them? Pfft!

        Still, you got a calendar not merely for donations you never made, but after sending in refusals to donate, and now made it a point to post this fact publicly….

        It was Sarah Palin who coined the term ABO and advanced it as a political strategy – but you consider ABO as somehow originating from a subset of C4P commenters….

        When Sarah Palin said we should vote for Romney, when she said we must work to get Obama out of office, when SarahPAC gave him $5K, you voted ***for Obama*** by writing in Sarah Palin, thus taking a vote away from Obama’s sole opposition.

        Further, you’re not merely proud of these things. You want your fellow Palinistas to applaud and validate these actions.

        Bluntly put, you support Sarah Palin – but only if she does what you want her to do.

        When she does not do what you want her to do, she’s made "horrible errors." But, you want this woman who – in your words – made not one but two "horrible errors" – to be the leader of the free world. And…you want her to confess to making said "horrible errors" when launching a campaign.

        This all makes sense because????

        • aaron66krohn

          "Sense" is in the eye of the beholder!

          1.  Isn’t it true that 3,000,000 LESS people voted for Romney than for McCain??  And weren’t most, if not all, of those 3 million, conservatives??  So Sarah NOT running lost 3,000,000 potential Republican votes!!

          2. Sarah had MEGA success in 2010 endorsing down-ticket candidates!  Why?  Because people, her followers, believed she WOULD be the GOP nominee in 2012.  That gave her the POWER (in addition to all her other qualities!!) to make her endorsements turn to wins!!  In 2012, after bowing out, she did NOT have that same kind of power!!  

          3. In the same vein, imagine what would have happened with those Senate and House (and Gov and Mayoral) candidates this year if Sarah HAD been the nominee!!  Her rallies might have drawn upwards of 100,000 fervent followers, and headlines in every form of media.  With the local candidates standing side-by-side with her on stage at those massive rallies would have been the best "endorsement" imaginable!!

          4. I will stand by what I said about SarahPAC, given what I said in number 3 above.  With Romney as the nominee, and with the lessening of her power, I foresaw the GOP failing to win back the Senate.  It would have been a waste of my $$$$ to donate to (probable) losing causes!!

          5. "ABO", while Sarah and others disagreed, for ME, meant a vote FOR Romney!!  Who else would a person who wanted to remove Obama from office vote for….besides Romney….on this year’s ballot??  Ron Paul??  NO!!  So Sarah, and everyone else who said "ABO", were REALLY saying to vote FOR Mitt!!!  What other "practical" choice did people have??  So YES, I am proud to have written Sarah’s name in!!  For ME, it was definitely NOT a vote FOR Obama…..OR Romney!!

          6. Finally, as to my requests (but not ORDERS!!!) for Sarah to do "mea culpas" for her "horrible errors" of not running, and saying "You don’t need a title to make a difference!", I’ll say this:  One, see the above for my explanation for the consequences of Sarah NOT running this year.
          Two, you, Ron, of all people, should understand that you….or at least, Sarah…..DO need a title to make a difference!!
          We are talking about changing POLICY, about ENACTING policy, not just getting conservatives elected!!  
          Look at your list (or the one that, I believe, appears on your "USforPalin" site) of all her many accomplishments!!  Can you think of even ONE of them that she accomplished withOUT a TITLE before her name??
          Could "Private Citizen" Sarah have created and gotten passed AGIA and ACES and the "largest private sector infrastructure project in North American history" if she did not have the TITLE of Governor??
          Same goes for ALL her political accomplishments…..or those having to do with enacting POLICY!!  She DID need a TITLE to get them passed!!
          So, in her ENTIRE political career, SHE has proven HERSELF to be wrong!!

          Anyway, glad to have the chance to "discuss" this with you.
          Thanks for your response!

          • devitor

            Answers to your points as you numbered them:

            1. 2.3 million less people voted. Why or what their motivations are has not been documented yet. As I noted in another post, Reagan polled those who stayed home in the ’74 election and that result is what gave us the Bold Colors / Pale Pastel’s speech. You could be right – and likely are – as to motivation, but right now, it’s just a bunch of us saying so with no evidence to support it.
            2. Sarah endorsed less candidates in ‘12, but her success numbers as a percentage was 57% overall – ’10 was 67%. But, where it gets interesting is on her primary endorsements. 75% of them went on to win their elections. You can quibble about the number of her endorsements, but her success rate was excellent. In fact her endorsements did much better than the RINOS and moderates who nearly all lost, so the numbers do not support your thesis that she lost significant power after not running in ’12.
            3. There is no doubt that she would have drawn huge crowds – she still does. CPAC was SRO and they had to put screens outside the room which itself held 4,000. But, the GOP establishment based on how we had to fight them for the better part of this year would not support her and were in fact on a mission to destroy her. In any case, we only have what she said was the root of her decision: impact on family and shackling of her freedom.
            4. Cruz, Fischer, Flake, Gosar, Walker, Kleefisch, etc. WON their campaigns. 8/14 all told; 6/8 were endorsed in the primary and won the general. 57% and 75% respectively.
            5. Yes, when Romney became the nominee, ABO meant supporting and voting for him. As you said, “Who else would a person who wanted to remove Obama from office vote for….besides Romney….on this year’s ballot??” So, by writing Sarah Palin in who did you hope to remove from office? You had two choices in the general. Sarah was not one of them – and she made the decision to not be one of them. The choices were Romney or Obama. You did not vote for Romney. So, even though you did not directly cast a vote for Obama you absolutely voted for Obama by writing Sarah in.
            6. You don’t know all the reasons why Sarah did not run. Neither do I. Members of her own family – like her parents or her brother, or her children – might not even know all the reasons. That knowledge may very well die with her. You’re saying she made these “mistakes” based on your observations of her without the complete knowledge of her reasons. It boils down to: she did not do what you wanted and – your words strongly imply that your support of her is conditioned on her doing what you want her to do. Neither of us were part of her decision-making process, but you are 100% certain she made grievous mistakes by not running and by supporting Romney – or more rather – advancing ABO, which by its logic ultimately led to Romney.

            Of course some accomplishments need a title and you pointed to those that do. Obviously they do and that’s not subject to debate. We agree there. But, I’ve been compiling Master Lists since after she left office – I have over three years’ worth of them now – and she did not have a title before her name on any of those. So, are you going to argue that she accomplished nothing since July 26, 2009? Are her accomplishments in office the only ones worth anything and the rest worth nothing or not truly accomplishments? Your statement implies that.

            Do you think Sarah should have stayed in office with the frivolous ethics complaints continuing unabated? And…should she have run a kamikaze campaign for ’12 even though her party would not support her? You went on about not supporting losing causes – of which you listed SarahPAC’s 2012 candidates as being among, even though in the main – they won – but you wanted her to run a POTUS campaign with no party support, no money, and no campaign organization staffed with capable operatives. Do you honestly think she would have won on that basis? Just on grassroots? Her running and losing would have been better than not running – how? Why?

            Has Sarah erred in her career? Of course she has. She’s not a deity; she’s not immortal; she’s not indestructible; and she is very much an imperfect human being like the rest of us. I get that and I don’t hold her out to be “Dear Leader,” as is done in dictators in places like North Korea. But, I maintain that your statements at the least imply that you only support her when she does what you want her to do, how you want her to do it, and when she doesn’t, you don’t.

    • colint

      Before the Elite announces who will be the next (losing) nominee I want Sarah to be perceived as the inevitable nominee. I have an idea how this can be achieved but don’t want raise it untl there is some indication that Sarah is prepared to run. She does not need to announce but it would help if she would say she is thinking about running.

      I would like to see your proposal on a seperate thread so that comments are just related to this subject.  As the day goes on fewer will read what you (or I) have written for as i write it is 6 hours back in the thread.

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        Thanks, colint.  I guess it would be up to the moderators to make a separate thread.  Thanks for the idea, and God bless you!

    • RomanBarbarian

      With the reflections that our 1776er added, I am so excited by the idea you are proposing, BB! It would be a way to discuss about the pros and cons of a third party, push back the secession issue and give back FIRE in the belly to us conservatives to recover and completely forget the depression of this election!
      Let’s get MARK LEVIN involved in all this. I trust the man with my heart, gut and soul.

      SARAH 2016!!!!

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        Thanks, Laura!!

        I too trust the Great One, Mark Levin!!

        Yes, so much of this war is MENTAL and PSYCHOLOGICAL and SPIRITUAL in nature.

        The Left wants us to think they have won.  If we allow ourselves to think this, they will win.

        We must push back hard … FIRST IN OUR SPIRITS AND MINDS, then in practical political action.

        The mental and spiritual struggle comes first.

        Thanks again!!

        Sarah 2016!!

    • Banda31

      Brian, I don’t know if you saw Bill O’Reilly’s show last night in which he and Mr Goldberg were discussing the state of America and the question was asked if America has lost all its Traditional values and if they will ever come back. Bill stated that "yes’ the Traditional values could come back if we have the right leader, someone like Ronald Reagan. Get this: the Leader, as per Bill O’Reilly, must be "charismatic, tough, has the ability to lead etc". I immediately shouted out at the TV, "Sarah Palin!". Then I said to  Bill, "You have the Leader you are looking for working right there at the Fox News TV station with you and you are so Blind you cannot see it".

      I feel really good and heartened at your words this morning, I pray that God will allow it to happen.

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        Thanks, Banda!!

        Yes, I heard BOR last night, and I thought much the same thing that you did!!

        AMEN to your prayer!!!

    • stevethird

      21) It would make Steve very, very happy!!!

      • BrianusBerkleianus

        LOL; High Five, Steve!!!

        And since I suspect it would make millions happy, we could, on your example, extend the list into the millions!!

        God bless.

  • ZH100

    Good morning all.

    ‘Poll: Americans Reject Crony Capitalism, 3-1′

    From the article:

    "In a recent Boston Herald column, pollster Scott Rasmussen of Rasmussen Reports cited poll findings that show strong bipartisan opposition to cronyism and its effects on free markets."


    Long before "crony capitalism" became a topic of national debate Gov. Palin has fought against corruption and crony capitalism.

    Taking on corruption and crony capitalism has always been a cornerstone of Gov. Palin’s agenda.

    Here are some links with information about Gov.Palin’s consistent fight against corruption and crony capitalism.

    ‘Institutionalizing Crony Capitalism’   (by Governor Palin)  

    From the article:
    "We need to be on our guard against such crony capitalism. We fought against distortion of the market in Alaska when we confronted “Big Oil,” or more specifically some of the players in the industry and in political office, who were taking the 49th state for a ride.
    My administration challenged lax rules that seemed to allow corruption, and we even challenged the largest corporation in the world at the time for not abiding by provisions in contracts it held with the state. When it came time to craft a plan for a natural gas pipeline, we insisted on transparency and a level playing field to ensure fair competition.

    Our reforms helped reduce politicians’ ability to play favorites and helped clean up corruption. We set up stricter oversight offices and ushered through a bi-partisan ethics reform bill. Far from being against necessary reform, I embrace it. "

    ‘Crony Capitalism on Steroids from GE to Solyndra’ (by Governor Palin)

    From the article:

    "This crony capitalism and government waste is at the heart of our economic problems. It will destroy us if we don’t root it out. It’s not just a Democrat problem or a Republican problem. It’s a problem of our permanent political class."

    ‘How Congress Occupied Wall Street’  (by Governor Palin)

    ‘Palin: Congress, it’s time to stop lining your pockets’ (by Governor Palin)

    ‘Governor Palin’s Consistent Fight against Corruption and Crony Capitalism’  (by Whitney Pitcher)

    From the article:

    "Governor Palin’s strong stance against crony capitalism, bureaucrats picking winners and losers, and a lack of transparency is not just words; it’s action.

    Citizen candidates do indeed bring a fresh perspective to a campaign and even to public office. However, there is something to be said for someone who took on corruption while in elected office. Such an individual has governed or legislated in an atmosphere of corruption, back room deals, and cronyism and has not only weathered such an atmosphere, but has effected change for the better. It is one thing to act as a citizen watchdog; it is another to make sure that legislation and projects are transparent and are void of back room deals and crony capitalism. Governor Palin is such a person."

    ‘Some of Sarah Palin’s Ideas Cross the Political Divide’ (by Anand Giridharadas)

    From the article:

    "But something curious happened when Ms. Palin strode onto the stage last weekend at a Tea Party event in Indianola, Iowa. Along with her familiar and predictable swipes at President Barack Obama and the “far left,” she delivered a devastating indictment of the entire U.S. political establishment — left, right and center — and pointed toward a way of transcending the presently unbridgeable political divide. "

    ‘How Governor Palin Reformed Alaska’s Ethics Laws and Made Crony Capitalism a Crime’ (by Gary P)

    From the article:

    "With all of the talk of corruption and crony capitalism these days, this is a great time to talk about some of the things Sarah Palin did to reform Alaska politics. She worked with the Alaska Legislature to pass tough, sweeping ethics reform "

    ‘Dan Mitchell of the Cato Institute praises Sarah Palin for highlighting Washington’s rampant crony capitalism ‘

    ‘How Palin Beat Alaska’s Establishment’ (WSJ)

    From the article:

    "If you’ve read the press coverage of Sarah Palin, chances are you’ve heard plenty about her religious views and private family matters. If you want to know what drives Gov. Palin’s politics, and has intrigued America, read this."

    ‘Sarah takes on Big Oil: The compelling story of Governor Sarah Palin’s battle with Alaska’s
    ‘Big 3′ oil companies’
    (by Kay Cashman and Kristen Nelson)

    Gov. Palin’s successful efforts to stop the cronyism and reform the energy business in Alaska were so impressive Kay Cashman, the publisher and executive editor of Petroleum News, wrote the book entitled: “Sarah Takes On Big Oil” .

    This is a must read for anyone who wants to understand the leadership Sarah Palin has exhibited in the area of reforming government and industry.

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Thank you, ZH, and good morning!!

      • ZH100

        You are welcome, Brianus and good morning!

  • ZH100

    As Governor Palin has said many times, she advocates for an “all of the above” approach to energy independence which includes solar, wind, nuclear, and clean coal in addition to the more traditional oil, gas, and coal.

    She supported development of renewable energy sources, developing a plan to have 50% of Alaska’s energy to be produced from renewable sources by the year 2025.

    ‘Palin unveils state energy goals; 2025 GOAL: At least 50 percent of state’s power to be from alternative sources.’    (January , 2009)

    "Gov. Sarah Palin has crossed swords with conservation groups over petroleum drilling, but she earned nothing but praise Friday after announcing the most ambitious renewable energy goals in the nation. At a news conference announcing her statewide energy plan, Palin called for 50 percent of Alaska’s power to be generated by renewable resources by 2025."

    ‘Sarah Palin’s Goal Of 50% Renewable Energy Use In Alaska Signed Into Law’ (June , 2010)

    From the article:

    "One of the first things Barack Obama did, once he took office, was to announce a pretty ambitious goal of having the United States get 25 percent of it’s energy from renewable sources by the year 2025. To date, little if anything, has been done by the Obama regime to reach this goal.

    On January 21, 2009 (Obama’s first full day at work) Sarah Palin, writing in the Wall Street Journal, praised this initiative strongly, while reminding Obama that conventional sources of energy will always be needed. She also announced that she was working on the goal of having Alaska get a full 50 percent of it’s energy from renewables in that same 2025 time frame."

  • ZH100

    About the  frivolous anti-Palin ethics complaints
    There were many "ethics" complaints filed against Gov Palin. All complaints ,but two ,dismissed as lacking any merit. The other two were settlements where Governor Palin was cleared of any wrongdoing.  

    Under Alaskan law these are dealt with by the Alaskan Personnel Board, which body gives a final determination.  

    The members of the Personnel Board were appointed by Palin’s predecessor, Frank Murkowski–no friend of Palin.  

    To cut a long story short Gov.Palin was exonerated from blame in all cases without exception.

    The two settlements where Gov.Palin was also cleared of any wrongdoing:

    1)  Governor Palin Reimburses the State for Kids’ Travel

    There was no state law against the governor’s family traveling with her, and the personnel board found no wrongdoing on the part of the Sarah Palin
    Because no guidance was provided in the law, the Palin administration followed historical precedent in travel decisions for the first family.
    All of her travel expenses were originally approved by the Department of Administration!

    The administration had decided to have the Attorney General establish a clearer set of guidelines that established a new “state interest” test for protocol travel and based on this set of new (!) guidelines Sarah Palin agreed to reimburse the state.
    Sarah Palin has been exonerated of all wrongdoing (also) in this ethics act complaint. There was no finding of wrongdoing and there was no ethics violation.
    The Alaska Personnel Board found no wrongdoing, but Sarah Palin agreed to reimburse the state.

    2)  The Legal Defense Fund Case.

    Associated Press: "No Wrongdoing on Palin’s Part was Found" in Legal Defense Fund Case

    No wrongdoing on Palin’s part was found. Investigator Timothy Petumenos said Palin acted in good faith and relied on a team of attorneys.

    The only thing the team of attorneys did wrong was use the word “official” while trying to help pay for all the legal costs involved with a merciless, politically motivated, litigious campaign from Democrat operatives against Sarah Palin.

    In essence, the investigator found that because of things such as the use of the word "Official" on the fund’s website, there is probable cause to believe that the fund itself could be in violation of Alaska ethics laws. However,  Sarah palin  did not do anything wrong since she acted on good faith on the advice of a team of lawyers who told her the fund was "unassailable" and in compliance with the law when it was formed.!

    Under Alaskan law Gov.Palin had to cover her own legal fees.

    Answering those lawsuits took up almost 100% of her time and the time of her staff, meaning she couldn’t govern. Those lawsuits were filed  to make it impossible for her to govern and to bankrupt her .

    Since then (2010) Alaskan law has been changed which now covers the governor’s legal fees for such legal proceedings. That didn’t help Gov. Palin as she still had to pay the fees she accrued during that time.
    About troopergate.

    The  the Bi-partisan Alaska Personnel Board , which is the final authority(!), ruled that Gov.Palin did not commit any ethics violation

  • blueniner

    The above words by Ian are interesting, he says keep Sarah Palin in the conversation, I think many of us do that by surfing other blogs and sites, I know I do, and many times I find folks that are huge Sarah Palin supporters, but by their handles they dont post here, and are not aware of C4P. That is one way to keep Sarahs name in the conversation.

  • ZH100

    Breitbart on Palin understanding that “culture is upstream of politics”

    From the article:

    "Important comments from Andrew Breitbart (may he rest in peace) regarding pop culture and politics and how Sarah Palin understands the connection."

  • ZH100

    ‘Jindal: End ‘dumbed-down conservatism’

    From the article:

    "Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Monday called on Republicans to “stop being the stupid party” and make a concerted effort to reach a broader swath of voters with an inclusive economic message that pre-empts efforts to caricature the GOP as the party of the rich."


  • blueniner

    The title of Paula Broadwells book, "All In" is sure a fitting title…. double entendre….LOL..
    One wonders how many other women was David betrayus was schtooping, as more comes out it seems to be pointing in the direction of many more.

    • gilamonster8

      So this isn’t the only one "embedded" with the general?

      • barracuda43

        I laughed also at that. Saw Broadwell on cspan last night and she said she was embedded with  Petraius. She didn’t say literally. Lol!

  • ZH100

    ‘Was Steve Schmidt Qualified to Be McCain’s Campaign Manager?’

    From the article:

    "How Steve Schmidt Failed to Vet Obama and Highlight Palin’s Record.

    During the 2008 election, the McCain campaign touted Governor Palin’s reform credentials by noting her rejection of the infamous “Bridge to Nowhere,” selling the expensive governor’s jet, and signing bipartisan ethics reform into law. However, the McCain campaign never noted that Governor Palin signed legislation in April of 2008 reforming Alaska’s retirement pension system and addressing an $8 billion unfunded liability. The reform led to a 34.6% reduction in liabilities owed by the state of Alaska following Palin’s tenure.

    So while Senator McCain was emphasizing how bipartisan record on other issues would mean that he would be able to reform federal entitlements like Medicare and Social Security, his running mate had already passed a state level equivalent of such a reform in a bipartisan manner"

  • ZH100

    On the Road with Governor Palin!

    • wodiej

      Are you ready for some Sarahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Love it!!

  • Pete Petretich

    Good advice, if you follow it:

    "…He’d always preached to his protégés that character was what you did when no one was watching. And he would always hasten to add, from his most public of perches, that “someone is always watching…”

  • wodiej

    "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."  Hebrews 11:1

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Thank you, wodiej, and good morning!

  • jerseymark

    Well, I am back at it with the C.S. Lewis readings, at least for this week as next week I am on vacation all week and will not be posting these until the following Monday. Again the time off is dictated so that those who receive these at my job will not be out of sync with those at C4P. Today’s reading comes from “The Weight of Glory” from a section entitled “Why I am not a Pacifist”:

    “It remains to inquire whether, if I still remain a Pacifist, I ought to suspect the secret influence of
    any passion….Let me say at the outset that I think it is unlikely there is anyone present less courageous than myself. But let me also say that there is no man alive so virtuous that he need feel himself insulted at being asked to consider the possibility of a warping passion when the choice is one between so much happiness and so much misery. For let us make no mistake. ALL THAT WE FEAR FROM ALL THE KINDS OF ADVERSITY, SEVERALLY, IS COLLECTED TOGETHER IN THE LIFE OF A SOLDIER ON ACTIVE SERVICE. Like sickness, it threatens pain and death. Like poverty, it threatens ill lodging, cold, heat, thirst and hunger. Like slavery, it threatens toil, humiliation,injustice and arbitrary rule. Like exile, it separates you from all you love. Like the gallies, it imprisons you at close quarters with uncongenial companions. It threatens every temporal evil – every evil except dishonor and final perdition, AND THOSE WHO BEAR IT LIKE IT NO BETTER THAN YOU WOULD LIKE IT. On the other side, though it may not be your
    fault, it is certainly a fact that Pacifism threatens you with almost nothing. Some public opprobrium, yes, from people whose opinion you discount and whose society you do not frequent, soon recompensed by the mutual approval which exists, inevitably, in any minority group. For the rest it offers you a continuance of the life you know and love, among the people and in the surroundings you know and love. It offers you time to lay the foundations of a career; for whether you will or no, you can hardly help getting the jobs for which THE DISCHARGED SOLDIERS WILL ONE DAY LOOK IN VAIN. You do not even have to fear, as Pacifists may have had to fear in the last war, that public opinion will punish you when the peace comes. FOR WE HAVE LEARNED NOW THAT THOUGH THE WORLD IS SLOW TO FORGIVE, IT IS QUICK TO FORGET.”

    In remembrance of all those who wear or have worn the uniform of our military during a time of war, I selected this reading out of sequence, as it is so appropriate that we recognize the hardship and the fears that are faced on a daily basis by those who fight evil on our behalf. No one would willingly choose such a life experience EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO MEET THE CHALLENGE AND TO DEFEND WHAT THEY HOLD SO DEAR. I believe that those who take up that challenge and face those threats on a daily basis of a much clearer perspective of reality, both of life and death and I think they must shake their heads in
    amazement, or pity or even disgust at the petty, insignificant inconveniences of which we so easily complain and sometimes act as if the end of the world has come. And having come through it all, they are so easily forgotten when peace has broken out and things get back to “normal”.

    Turning to Mr. Lewis’s comments about the Pacifists, I sense a tone of condemnation and disgust which is uncommon for him. These people, and they are around today, would have the weakest grasp of reality for they live in a world that has never and will never exist short of the return of Christ and that comes with the biggest yet shortest war of all. They are of great danger to any society in which they operate as they undermine the collective will needed to defeat the evil forces seeking to destroy or enslave them. It is rank foolishness of the Pacifist Left that they do not
    understand that if those forces are successful in this day, they will be among the first to be exterminated. But as I said, they have no understanding of reality.

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Thank you, Jerseymark!!

      I think of our brave Sarah too as a soldier in this great fight for America.

      She certainly has not exposed herself to all of the hatred, all of the lies, all of the opprobrium, all of the threats for pleasure … no, she does it all for LOVE OF GOD, NEIGHBOR, AND COUNTRY.

      She is a precious soul.

      God bless you!!

      • jerseymark

        EXACTLY BB! Thanks.

        • BrianusBerkleianus

          :-) !!

  • ZH100

    This video is interesting ( video from MSNBC) ; they talked about Gov.Palin’s record as Governor.

    I don’ t agree with the false "she is changed" meme  , but except the false "she is changed" meme , the video is interesting and informative.

    MSNBC airs decent segment on Sarah Palin  (May , 2011)

  • xthred

    There are no more meaningful elections to anticipate.

    You guys know Ann Barnhardt? She does a lot of great work. Was watching her 8-part YouTube series on the coming financial collapse. On part 8 she says all of our political leaders are corrupt, with pictures. And she shows the "winking Palin" photo. Disgusting. Had to stop watching it right there.

    • ZH100

      I don’t know if I understand you correctly , but if she said that Gov.Palin is corrupt then she is misinformed about Gov.Palin.

      Taking on corruption and crony capitalism has always been a cornerstone of Gov. Palin’s agenda. Gov.Palin has a record (and 24,000+ pages of emails!) to prove it.

    • 1776er

      I really like Ann Barnhardt.  She does a good job of outlining very serious problems in simple language that anybody can understand.  For example she urges "Get the hell out!" of the corrupt Wall St institution.  What don’t you understand about that?  Simple language.

      But Ann is a hard ass.  She takes NO prisoners.  She admits no personal weakness and she allows none in others.  She takes it to the house as the only moral course for anybody, including herself ,to follow.  Don’t pay your taxes.  She’s not.  She is being levied.  We all should stop paying taxes to an immoral regime.  ANY compromise with evil is reprehensible moral degeneracy to her.

      Ann has given up on all politics as a solution or hope for saving the Republic.  She views the First American Republic as dead and gone.  Unsalvageable. She believes there are two likely outcomes in the near future–A military junta or a hot, bloody civil war.  The First American Republic is  Lost. She feels it her moral duty to warn Americans of the imminent implosion of society, its causes, its consequences, and what must be done to survive it. 

      Ann Barnhardt has NO regard for either Democrats or Republicans of ANY stripe.  Moral, psycopathic, sociopathic, cowardly, criminal degenerates ALL in her view. That includes "Conservative" Republicans like Allen West, Sarah Palin and anybody else.  

      Ann Barnhardt is a strong, bitter drink of moonshine white lightning.  It will choke many a taste even for harsh, red hot likker.  Even I can only take a little bit of Ann Barnhardt at a time.  She is a pistol with only one gear.  

      In her summary condemnation of weak kneed Republicans she went perhaps lightest on Sarah Palin. She previously had positive feelings about Sarah. Her rigidity and high moral bar requiring extreme decisive moral response to the crisis America faces extinguished those feelings. Her primary gripe about Sarah is that she wavered in the face of the country’s danger.  Didn’t have a set of cojones to match her own.  Not willing or lacking the moral courage to answer the Quo Vadis? question of Christ to St. Peter.  

      Ann herself says she is answering the Quo Vadis? question by sacrificing herself to the IRS and likely coming imprisonment for failing to pay her taxes.  She says she is going to Rome to be crucified.  The crucifixion is likely to be in the form of tax evasion jail time.  Sarah Palin fell short of that standard in declining to run and hold up the Cross.  Therefore Sarah joins the Rogue’s Gallery of ALL political pyscopathic, sociopathic, degenerates out to line their own pockets with of all things a fitness book?  Ann’s incredulous response to that:  Are you kidding me?

      You have to leaven Ann Barnhardt within the context of your own level of commitment.  We all fall short in Ann’s eyes.  

      I am working my way through Ann’s 8 part Magnum Opus on the economy which she claims will be probably be her last  major effort.  Likely in anticipation of her IRS crucifixion.  So far it is very good.  I skipped to Part 8.  I always peek at the end of the book.  That is where you will find the Sarah Palin commentary.  But I urge everyone to plow through her 2 1/2 hour presentation.  Lot’s of good stuff there that goes down hot like the rawest of white lightning moonshine.  

      As much as I would like to I can’t take my Ann Barnhardt neat, straight up.  I need ice and a mixer to cool it down somewhat.  But I do like her style.

      You can view it for yourself here:

      • TheresaAK

        This Ann thinks more highly of herself than she ought to…

        Her view is her view…an opinion…opinions are like butt holes…and she seems to be a big one…

        just saying.

      • RebinTexas

        1776er…….that was an excellent treatise on Ann and where she is coming from, going to. You are right about her rigidity and how high she has placed her moral bar – the Catholic Church falls far below her bar (for some good reasons). I think you put her thoughts and feelings in great perspective – especially your last sentence – definitely need the ice and mixer.

        I, too, am plowing through her presentation, for anything I can learn and should consider in what I fear may soon be perilous times.

    • RebinTexas

      xthred…….understand……but you got to keep in mind Ann’s current frame of mind – with the IRS working to take "everything" and all she has witnessed (much of which she understands much better than I and many here do) regarding the financial rape of this country by bho and so many others……..none of who are being prosecuted. Take a look at 1776er’s discussion – below – for much more indepth discussion of where Ann is now.

  • stlouisix

    Panetta: ‘Advance Notice’ Needed for U.S. ‘To Be Able to Move Quickly’

    Panetta has never been a friend of the military, which is par for the course for everyone that Obama, the military hater extraordinaire as evinced by his PC rules of engagement with the self-esteem of the radical jihadists a higher priority than the lives of our troops, puts in authority over the military. 

    Obama and Panetta Uses Military Brass as Props

    You don’t need "advance notice" to do the right thing, Panetta, when you see what’s happening in real time with the available resources on hand to save lives which YOU, and you entire rotten anti-military establishment making up the sham Obama Administration, chose NOT to do which is a TREASONOUS betrayal of the trust of those looking to you for support, and for which you and your ilk deserve prosecution for dereliction of duty and violation of your oath-of-office that you’ve foresworn!

    • 1776er

      Geeze.  Do you think the Russians or the Iranians or the North Koreans are going to give us enough advance notice before they strike?  We can’t gin up a timely response to break up a rag tag militia of 150 rpg toting "freedom fighters"?  

      One dozen marines and a single AC-130 Puff the Magic Dragon would have provided a timely response to those murderers in about 20 minutes.  All quiet on the Benghazi front.  

      This is a pathetic admission by Panetta.  Advance notice?  He should be given a two week advance notice. Terminated for incompetence.

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Thank you, stlouisix!!

    • Kalena

      Be afraid, be very afraid.  Oloser is thinking about nominating John Kerry for Secretary of Defense.  YIKES!!!

      • barracuda43

        Didn’t John Kerry serve in Vietnam? Lol!
        Remember Sarah saying John why the long face? 

  • stlouisix

    US Commander in Afghanistan Now Linked to Petraeus Scandal

    As a Vietnam Era Navy veteran of the Naval Security Group Command, I feel for our military who are trying to honorably serve their country under the leadership of the dishonorable who are putting our national security at grave risk in more than demonstrating that the whole rotten lot of them, to especially include the Marxist Socialist fraud masquerading as president, don’t deserve to get a clearance to be a janitor in the lowest classfied spaces, let alone have access to the most sensitive top secret code word information available critical to America’s defense.

    But of course, when has Comrade Obama evinced one whit of being concerned about the defense of a country that he’s willfully destroying from within?

  • stlouisix

    Panetta: ‘I’m Reading the Papers Like You Are’ to Learn More About Petraeus

    Panetta is a lying sociopath to expect the sane to believe such rot! Moreover, he ought to be ashamed to make such an admission to our decreasing circle of allies who understand that an Amerika, unrecognizable to the founding fathers, under Comrade Obama is NOT their friend!

    It is Panetta’s, as Secretary of Defense, responsibility to not only know of the moral rot enveloping our corrupted flag officers, but also to take immediate action on same for national security purposes. However, when you’re part of the corruption, you don’t really care!

    There are a lot of resignations that are demanded of the sham Obama Administration starting right with the fraud at the top masquerading as president with one of his main henchmen, Panetta, in line right behind him!

  • stlouisix

    Obama to Discuss ‘Fiscal Cliff’–With Union Leaders

    Nothing like appealing to your thug Marxist Socialist Union base for fiscal advice, read, "Don’t worry, I will take care of you – the rest of the country be damned!"

    • Kalena

      Haven’t the unions taken companies over this proverbial fiscal cliff?  I seem to remember there used to be an Eastern Airlines, etc.  They deliberately ran that company over that fiscal cliff, right on over to the unemployment line.

  • puba1800

    Gov Palin is the big white elephant in the room that nobody is talking about. Any idiot with a half a brain can see that almost 4 million more people voted for Gov Palin than Mitt/Ryan. Of course that is assuming that anybody in the GOP has at least half a brain. 2014 will be crucial for Gov Palin. I believe she will emerge from the mid term elections stronger than ever and unstoppable. Then Gov Palin will decide what to do for 2016.

    • smbren

       It should be very interesting to see what she has up her sleeve. It will be a whole lot harder now to do anything, but it will  be interesting to say the very least.

    • golfmom3

      For clarity, you might want to adjust your allusion.  Gov. Palin is not as big as an elephant, and she is certainly not a "white elephant".  The accessible Wikipedia explains:

      "A white elephant is an idiom for a valuable but burdensome possession of which its owner cannot dispose and whose cost (particularly cost of upkeep) is out of proportion to its usefulness or worth. The term derives from the story that the kings of Siam (now Thailand) were accustomed to make a present of one of these animals to courtiers who had rendered themselves obnoxious, in order to ruin the recipient by the cost of its maintenance. In modern usage, it is an object, scheme, business venture, facility, etc., considered to be without use or value."

      • smbren

         It’s an expression "The elephant in the room", it’s like the expression "Lip stick on a Pig"

        • golfmom3

          Oh, I know that.  (And the post was meant kindly) It’s just that by adding additional adjectives to the phrase, the meaning gets a bit scrambled –

          • smbren

             Oh I know, mine too. I saw Sarah in August here in Michigan. My first time seeing her, and I was pretty close. She is absolutely beautiful in person, even more so in person. She is just a tiny little thing.

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