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The Governor praised John McCain and posted the following Facebook note that Rush Limbaugh read on air.

Looking ahead…

So did Romney want reporters to hear what he had to say about his defeat last Tuesday?



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  • ZH100

    Good morning all.
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    Long before "public spending" became a topic of national debate Gov. Palin has fought to reduce spending and to enforce fiscal discipline as governor of Alaska.

    Gov.Palin has drastically reduced the growth of the state budget, which has helped to produce a record budget surplus.
    Alaska had its bond rating raised to AAA for the first time in the state’s history, largely due to fiscal improvements brought about by Sarah Palin while she was governor.

    Some links with information about Gov.Palin’s (impressive) fiscal record.
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    ‘Palin’s Jobs Record Beats All Others in the GOP Field’

    From the article:

    "In terms of bringing down state unemployment rates versus the national average, Palin leads all other governors and former governors in the GOP field"

    http://pa4palin.blogspot.nl/2011/07/palins-jobs-record-beats-all-others-in.html
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    ‘Governor Palin–Leading the Fight on Debt and Liabilities .

    Comparing and contrasting the records of Governors Palin, Perry, Pawlenty, Romney, and Huntsman in dealing with state debt and liabilities’

    http://blogontheprairie.blogspot.com/2011/08/governor-palin-leading-fight-on-debt.html
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    Sarah Palin: A Record of Fiscal Conservatism (Part 1)

    From the article:

    "Sarah Palin served as Mayor/City Manager of Wasilla, Alaska from October 14, 1996 to October 14, 2002. As such, Palin was responsible for preparing, submitting, and executing the City’s annual budget for fiscal years 1997 through 2003. During this seven-year period, the City’s General Fund averaged an annual surplus of roughly $2.5 million, as illustrated in the chart below. Palin inherited a surplus of just $350,000 from her predecessor John Stein (fiscal year 1996). By 2003 she had grown the surplus to almost $3 million, with a 22.4% increase in revenue and a 15.6% reduction in spending."
    http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/2011/06/sarah-palin-record-of-fiscal.html
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    Sarah Palin: A Record of Fiscal Conservatism (Part 2)

    From the article:

    "Sarah Palin served as Governor of the State of Alaska from December 4, 2006 to July 26, 2009. As such, Palin exercised authority over the State’s annual budget for fiscal years 2008, 2009, and 2010. At the end of fiscal year 2007, Gov. Frank Murkowski, Palin’s immediate predecessor (whom she defeated in the 2006 Republican gubernatorial primary), left the State’s General Fund with a balance of roughly $7.6 billion. During the three fiscal years for which Gov. Palin oversaw the budget, the General Fund averaged an annual surplus of more than $2.6 billion, resulting in a total increase of $7.9 billion ? more than 100% ? over the fiscal year 2007 balance."
    http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/2011/06/sarah-palin-record-of-fiscal_08.html
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    Sarah Palin: A Record of Fiscal Conservatism (Part 3)

    From the article:

    "Requests for federal earmarks declined dramatically in each of the fiscal years for which Sarah Palin exercised budgetary authority for the State of Alaska. In FY2007, Gov. Frank Murkowski requested $350 million in federal appropriations, which Gov. Palin reduced to $256 million in FY2008, $198 million in FY2009, and $69 million in FY2010. Overall, Palin cut earmark requests by more than 80% during her tenure as Governor."
    http://pa4palin.blogspot.com/2011/06/sarah-palin-record-of-fiscal_523.html
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    ‘Governor Palin on the Issues: Monetary Policy’

    From the article:

    "Governor Palin stands firmly against the actions of the federal government in policies which simultaneously devalue our dollar, drive up our debt and leave us dependent on foreign sources of energy. She also stands against the actions of the Fed which inflate prices at a time when Americans are already on tight budgets and do nothing to aid employment."

    http://conservatives4palin.com/2010/11/governor-palin-on-the-issues-monetary-policy.html
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    ‘Alaska Has Three “A’s” in Its Name and Now, So Does Its Credit Rating’

    From the article:

    "Another credit rating agency, Standard and Poor’s upgraded Alaska’s credit rating to its highest possible rating of AAA. The agency gives several reasons why it felt confident enough in Alaska’s fiscal climate to make such an upgrade. A few of these reasons are due directly to the policies implemented by Governor Palin."

    http://palin4america.com/2012/01/alaska-has-three-as-its-name-and-now-so-does-its-credit-rating/
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    Paul Gigot: Governor Palin “Leading the Pack” on Monetary Policy  (November ,2010)

    From the article:

    "In a Wall Street Journal editorial  the editors noted the degree of sophistication Governor Palin is bringing to the table as she attempts to focus the nation’s attention on the disastrous repercussions which must result from a further inflating of the currency.

    Specifically, she referred to QE2, the Fed’s plan to pump another $600 billion to as much as $1 trillion into the economy via the purchase of U.S. government securities. Paul Gigot, editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page, discusses the editorial and Governor Palin in the video."

    http://online.wsj.com/video/opinion-journal-palin-vs-bernanke/6A8B3973-6069-464E-B48B-4D4564C96DE5.html

    http://conservatives4palin.com/2010/11/paul-gigot-governor-palin-leading-the-pack-on-monetary-policy.html
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    Palin v. Bernanke.
    Her Warning To the Fed Chairman Puts Her Out in Front on the Debate on the Dollar

    From the article:

    "One of the questions in respect of 2012 is how it has happened that the only major Republican figure, aside from Congressman Ron Paul, to stand up and be counted on the dollar is Sarah Palin."

    http://www.nysun.com/editorials/palin-v-bernanke/87128/

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Good morning, ZH, and thank you!!

      • ZH100

         You are welcome, Brianus and good morning!

  • BrianusBerkleianus

    My Dear Friends in Sarah,

    Happy Thursday to you all!!

    Here are some thoughts from earlier this year on parallels between 1860 and the present time, and on the SLAVE world that obama and his thugs are trying to create in Free America–and did you see that vicious crowd that was invited to the White House the day before yesterday: All the worst elements of America, and close allies of the "president"!!

    I have changed one number from the original of the post below: 2012 has become 2016 :-)

    FROM LAST MARCH

    I am going to repost below the compilation of my initial remarks on her great interview last night on Hannity’s show [last March].

    Here I present some thoughts on what was perhaps her most striking VERBAL utterance last night, namely that obama is BRINGING US BACK TO THE DAYS BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR (IMV, her FACIAL utterances, the fire and steel in her eyes, were even more powerful and puissant than any words!!)

    Here then are several implications, IMV, of what she said last night in comparing our days to the last gasp of the antebellum days.

    1) After the four-way election of 1860, a political earthquake shattered the fabric of American society, as it had endured in a precarious balance for many years up until the 60′s. The four-man Presidential race of ’60 (Stephen Douglas-Northern Democrats, John Breckenridge-Southern Democrats, John Bell-Constitutional Union Party, Abraham Lincoln-Republican Party) marked the definitive dissolution of the old two-party Whig-Democrat system. obama’s current policies and actions are exacerbating our current situation and are accelerating the forces that could lead to a similar dissolution of the current Democratic-Republican model and paradigm, and could yield a new alignment of political forces. This actually could be a good result to come out of the disaster of the obama "presidency," but it will not come without pain. Sarah has already posited a new paradigm: The Government Party versus the Freedom Party. However, I suspect that the Governor would rather reclaim the GOP from the anti-Reagan Establishment, rather than perhaps having to help in the forming of a completely new Party and organization.

    2) obama is fracturing our country, not so much into GEOGRAPHICAL regions, as was the case during the Civil War/War Between the States, as into PHILOSOPHICAL regions. His "presidency" is an acid; he is a corrosive, dividing force.

    3) She implicitly holds herself up as a UNIFIER, as opposed to the fragmenting, dissolving poison of the current regime. Can the nation endure four more years of this, sinister, divisive figure?

    4) Horrible as it would be, and I almost hate to mention it here, could there be a veiled warning here from the Governor about what the reelection of obama could lead to? This is especially so if, in a second term, he tips the balance of the Supreme Court to the Left, and if these black-robed tyrants then start to try to dismantle, for example, the Second Amendment.

    5) obama is helping to create an Orwellian society, in which some people are "more equal" than others; in which we are not all CITIZENS, with equality before the benign and blind eyes of Justice and Right.

    No, in obama’s slave world:

    For flunkies and functionaries of the power of the state, for the sandra fluke and bill ayers types, there are perks; these are phone calls from the Oval Office; there are privileged positions in academia, law, etc.

    For faithful citizens like Sarah Palin, there is persecution; there is obloquy; there is opprobrium; there is odium.

    For slaves of the Left, there are redistributed goodies and "stimulus" dollars.

    For ordinary, hard-working Americans there are more and more "taxes," that is, more and more dollars stolen from their pockets to feed the Leviathan of the Left.

    For secular humanist radicals, there are big bucks, sinecures, lavish and fawning praise.

    For religious folks there is persecution, fury, and shameless attempts to force and compel them to act against their consciences.

    The "center cannot hold" in a situation like this.

    I think what she is saying may be summed up thus:

    When the equilibrium of the Body Politic is violently upset and thrown out of kilter and balance, when a country that is at least two-thirds Center-Right is governed by a small clique of arrogant, hateful, power-hungry, America-hating hard Leftists, then the situation cannot long endure.

    America is the Land of the Free. She cannot ABIDE slavery; nor can she be GOVERNED BY SLAVES!!!

    I might add as a coda and conclusion, since thoughts of the Civil War evoke memories of the Old South:

    The best and finest of the Old South, like the noble and immortal Robert E. Lee, did not care for slavery, but very much loved, to the LAST DROP OF THEIR HEROIC BLOOD, their States, and the sovereign integrity of their States.

    In the bleak and dark world of barack hussein obama, the opposite is true.

    First, re slavery:

    obama and his Chicago minions and thugs are trying to create not just one but TWO classes of slaves:

    Slaves of the First Class: Useful idiots and serfs and functionaries like sandra fluke and thousands like her, especially in academia, politics, and law, who serve their masters and do their masters’ bidding, and are rewarded with "jobs," money, perks, privileges, and power.

    Slaves of the Second Class: The rest of the American People, who are taxed and taxed and taxed to pay for the upkeep of the Slaves of the First Class … and the slave masters like obama and his comrades, who sit at the summit of the pyramid of power.

    Second, re the States:

    This servant of One-World Communism is, of course, an enemy, a vile and virulent enemy, of the United STATES of America, and of the Tenth Amendment. He favors the United "State" (singular) of "Amerika"

    The chivalrous world of the Old South, while it was not perfect (the North too was far from perfect –we are ALL always far from perfect)–the world of the South was diametrically the opposite of the nightmare world of terror, persecutions, and totalitarianism that barack obama and his fellow criminals are trying to introduce into Free America.

    obama must be CRUSHED (politically); his "czars" and the whole crowd of his radical little flunkies must be driven from the seats of power; obama and his "legacy" must be obliterated!!!

    RUN, SARAH, RUN!!!

    DEO VOLENTE, SARAH 2016!!!!

    Brianus

  • ZH100

    ‘Setting the Record Straight – Sarah Palin and Sex Education’

    From the article:

    "NPR got it wrong back in 2008. As did the The Washington Post, MSNBC, ABC News and The Wallstreet Journal . Unfortunately, many feminists have followed the misinformation of the mainstream media."

    http://www.thenewagenda.net/2010/05/02/setting-the-record-straight-sarah-palin-and-sex-education/

  • ZH100

    As Governor Palin has said many times, she advocates for an “all of the above”approach to energy independence which includes solar, wind, nuclear, and clean coal in addition to the more traditional oil, gas, and coal.

    She supported development of renewable energy sources, developing a plan to have 50% of Alaska’s energy to be produced from renewable sources by the year 2025.
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    ‘Palin unveils state energy goals; 2025 GOAL: At least 50 percent of state’s power to be from alternative sources.’    (January , 2009)

    "Gov. Sarah Palin has crossed swords with conservation groups over petroleum drilling, but she earned nothing but praise Friday after announcing the most ambitious renewable energy goals in the nation. At a news conference announcing her statewide energy plan, Palin called for 50 percent of Alaska’s power to be generated by renewable resources by 2025."
    http://www.adn.com/2009/01/16/657216/palin-unveils-state-energy-goals.html#storylink=cpy
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    ‘Sarah Palin’s Goal Of 50% Renewable Energy Use In Alaska Signed Into Law’ (June , 2010)

    From the article:

    "One of the first things Barack Obama did, once he took office, was to announce a pretty ambitious goal of having the United States get 25 percent of it’s energy from renewable sources by the year 2025. To date, little if anything, has been done by the Obama regime to reach this goal.

    On January 21, 2009 (Obama’s first full day at work) Sarah Palin, writing in the Wall Street Journal, praised this initiative strongly, while reminding Obama that conventional sources of energy will always be needed. She also announced that she was working on the goal of having Alaska get a full 50 percent of it’s energy from renewables in that same 2025 time frame."
    http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/sarah-palin%E2%80%99s-goal-of-50-renewable-energy-use-in-alaska-signed-into-law/

  • ZH100

    Breitbart on Palin understanding that “culture is upstream of politics”

    From the article:

    "Important comments from Andrew Breitbart (may he rest in peace) regarding pop culture and politics and how Sarah Palin understands the connection."

    http://palin4america.com/2012/07/breitbart-on-palin-understanding-that-culture-is-upstream-of-politics/

  • Pete Petretich

    If Romney would have asked for Sarah’s help during the campaign THEN HE WOULD BE PRESIDENT-ELECT RIGHT NOW.

    He knows this just as well as we do…

    • wpmwindsong

      You know, I have voted in 15 Presidential elections for Ike, Nixon (thrice), Goldwater, Ford, Reagan (twice), Bush I (twice), Dole, Bush II (twice), McCain and Romney.   

      Not once did I ever vote because they reached out to me, to a special interest group of which I was a part, or to someone else whom I liked.  I wasn’t all that excited about every candidate for a variety of reasons; but I voted because it was my civic duty to vote and to vote for the better of the two options. 

      I voted because I am an American who voted for the person who best represented my desires for the country. 

      All I know is that if everyone who voted for GW Bush in 2004 had voted for Romney in 2012, Obama would be packing his bags, not planning on totally destroy America.

      I know that because I am getting first hand feed back from reputable anecdotal sources that the number of 2008 Obama voters who switched and voted for Romney is not insignificant.   It is in line with Palin’s suggestion that Romney go after the Independents and the disillusioned Democrats and not worry about the base because it would be solidly behind him. 

      Apparently, she did not know that her own base had no intent of following her suggestion, except a rare few who did vote, but with clinched teeth and extreme embarrassment and who take pleasure in reminding us of that fact.   

      Your comment only confirms that there is a significant element who bailed.  Especially when she supported the ticket 100% (her words), wrote Facebook commentaries in support, promoted the team in several interviews throughout the campaign, donated money, and prepared a robocall for battleground states.  You are admitting that there is a demographic of conservative voters who chose to sit the election out for petty reasons in the face of 4 more years of Obama and in spite of Palin’s call to arms.  

      And you know this just as well as I do.  No one forced anyone to not vote, and any person truly concerned about the future of the country would not need an engraved invitation to do so.

      • SusanWo4p

        But we were all being asked/forced to support Romney BECAUSE THE NATION’S FATE DEPENDED UPON IT.  A lot of us voted for him because we felt the the times were desperate enough. 

        Times were apparently not that desperate for the GOP, though, because they couldn’t muster up the motivation to reach out to Sarah/Tea Party.

        No one could force Romney/GOP to reach out to Sarah, but any candidate/political party truly concerned about the future of the country would not need an engraved invitation to do so.

        • dave7777

           Susan….you hit in on the head!

        • aaron66krohn

          This may AGAIN get me kicked off of C4P, but I MUST say it anyway:

          If, as you say, the "NATION’S FATE DEPENDED ON IT", then…..

          SARAH HERSELF should have run!!!

          She SAID (on Newsweek’s cover in July 2011)……"I CAN WIN!".

          She SAID (in Madison WI, in April 2011)……"Mr President, GAME ON!!".

          Sarah made a grievous error, and now we are living with the consequences!!

          I WROTE IN Sarah Palin for President, and I am PROUD to say I did!!

      • golfmom3

        But. Your are speaking from your personal experience of the election. There are many voters who did not see her Facebook posts, catch her when she sporadically appeared on Fox for interviews or were home when the robocall came at midday.

        Had Romney REALLY wanted Gov. Palin’s help, there would have been many joint appearances — he sure used John McCain, didn’t he?  The joint appearances and possible implications of a cabinet post or other combined effort to fix this mess would have been HUGE!  You know it and I know it. 

        With a reputation as an incredible businessman, Romney screwed this up.  He invested huge money in a software system that crashed into nothingness. Most damaging, he burned bridges with the allies he most needed to join him on stage in front of the cameras to sound a "call to arms" and visually document shared vision and shared effort to GOTV and send BHO home.  For petty reasons, Romney chose to make a 47% effort in this election to win — and it fell short.

        Your argument is like blaming the patient for dying, when the ER physician chose not to use other medical professionals to assist with the cardiac resuscitation paddles or call the nurse to start an IV line or even do CPR.  Your last line then rings hollow: No one forced the patient to not live, and any patient truly wanting to live would not need an engraved invitation to do so.  America is in trouble and needed someone to do the things most necessary to pull voters to oust Obama. Romney was negligent in this campaign.

        • wodiej

          it’s the fault of conservatives IMO who voted for Romney in the primaries.  They are the ones who alienated the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich, RP supporters-the many different factions that would have really changed things dramatically.  It appears based on their choosing Romney that perhaps they don’t understand what needs to be done.  

          • technopeasant

            wodiej, you are beginning to sound like me. I beat that drum for the past year. Until now I thought you had not listened.

          • golfmom3

            Yes, you’re right.  But I think there are many GOP elite who like to call themselves conservative but are really more about controlling their cozy arrangements within the DC power establishment.  Gov. Palin had it right last summer — it’s crony capitalism on both side of the aisle.  Calling yourself a conservative is a lot like calling yourself a Christian — it sounds good but doesn’t have anything to do with what you understand or how you act or think when you hope no one’s looking.

      • technopeasant

        So are you making the case Sarah Palin is at fault for Team Romney pursuing such a flawed strategy of seeking independents without firming up the base?

        It’s called politics 101:

        Sarah Paiin has run several election campaigns in her career as a professional politician. Securing your base is your #1 priority. You don’t win without it. Suggesting Palin would recommend such an alternative political universe to Team Romney or that they would listen to anything Palin would have to suggest to them is absolutely ludicrous.

        Romney, his team and the GOP establishment loss was based on The Peter Principle being on full display and reckless HUBRIS not allowing for any correction that the Romney needed to make to have at least a chance to win.

        • wpmwindsong

          Sarah Palin with Fox’s Shannon Bream before the convention – “It’s all about the independents, Shannon,” Palin said. “We don’t have to just keep on preaching to the choir, there, of the hardcore base of fiscal conservatives within the Republican Party – we got ‘em; Romney’s got ‘em. We’ve got to reach the independents.”

          Sarah Palin on the last day of the convention with Hannity.   http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-palin-convention-reagan/2012/08/31/id/450485

          "We need to talk to the independents out there in America, the hard-core patriotic American who wants a job," she told Fox News’ Sean Hannity, adding that the Republican presidential nominee has to reach out as well to "Reagan Democrats who are not obsessed with partisanship" and want to know, as President Ronald Reagan used to say, "that our best days are in front of us." "That’s who we need to reach," she said.

          Sarah even had high praise for Paul Ryan whom everyone blamed as being part of the reason they were turned off.  – "I was very proud of Paul Ryan and pleased with the words that he had to say, and just can’t wait until, you know, 68, 69 days from now, when we get to turn this car around."

          Sarah knew what she was doing, but apparently her supporters were not listening and had their own agenda. 

          Romney received 750,000 more votes than McCain.  Romney lost by only 3 million, while McCain lost by 9 million.   Romney picked up Democrat votes, likely in the millions, just like Palin recommended.

          Romney had every chance to win, in spite of all the stories of fraud and free phones, when he lost by only 3 million votes.  Credible anecdotal evidence can be found right here on C4P that there was a significant element of the hardcore conservative base that Palin said she was sure was there, who sat the election out.  

          The Obama ability to blame everyone other than himself for his failures is on full display here in blaming Romney for those who chose to not vote for petty and irrelevant excuses.   And everyone knows that was much of the discussion on C4P leading up to the election. People would not accept the logic that not voting for Romney was actually a vote for Obama.  They felt that they could sit the election out without voting for either as a personal exercise in being true to their principles, whatever they were.

      • dave7777

         This may come as a shock, but there are conservatives that don’t even know who Sarah Palin is. Those are the conservatives that sat it out, unmotivated. They are still part of the base and Romney completely ignored them.
        Those of us on this site are news junkies, Palin junkies, economic junkies….sadly, we are in the minority of conservatives.

        • wpmwindsong

          Conservatives who don’t know who Palin is????  Not believable.  Every conservative of every stripe knew the world of hurt we were in with Obama. 

          The problem with your analysis is that it was the junkies on this site who were campaigning against Romney even up to the election while Palin was commenting that we would all unite strongly behind him.  

      • Christopher H Fromme

        In Feb 2013 when I have access to the data I am going to ask people that voted in 2008 but not in 2012 why they choose not to.   PA had a drop off of about 500,000 most of them Obama voters

        • wpmwindsong

          Not a bad idea, but how can we believe what they say?   Anyone who chose not to vote to defeat Obama will lie about it for the same reason that they chose not to vote in the first place.  

          Who is going to expose their real reasons when benign answers will do, like Romney was a RINO and I vowed to never vote for a RINO every again. Which is not a good reason either.  Who wants to admit that they did not vote because Sarah did not speak at the convention, or Ryan attended the Game Change movie premier. 

          • everythingispolitics

            Your problem is that you are turning people right to vote, which should be a joy to exercise, into a chore or task. The liberals who voted, gleefully voted for Obama. Many of us had to drag ourselves to vote for Romney. I thought ORCA was there to supplement the GOTV effort we already had. I didn’t know it was the GOTV effort. That is a massive fail, but people in the RNC never thought he could win. I guess we know why now. 

            • wpmwindsong

              Not true.  The Democrats were so gleeful that they lost from 4-5 million votes in 2012 (From 67 million in 2008 to 62 million in 2012), many of them voting for Romney, just as Sarah encouraged Romney to pursue, since she said that he had the hardcore fiscal conservatives already locked up.  She saw no need for him to continue to go after the base.  Apparently, she was wrong. 

              There is no expectation that one should be gleeful or a chore when voting, especially when voting to defeat Obama with a candidate whom Sarah Palin supported 100% and called everyone to get behind strongly.    I never saw that on C4P, the premier blog purporting to support Sarah.   Sad.    

    • lyndaaquarius

      I remember Karl Rove and his comment: " sarah Palin’s opinion isn’t worth snot"  

    • http://twitter.com/enbreb Elwanda Burrell

       AMEN….you are so right!!!

  • jerseymark

    Today, we continue with Mr. Lewis’s discussion concerning the relationship between Time as we now experience it and God’s perspective in the eternal now as Mr. Lewis referred to it in the last reading. This reading comes from “Mere Christianity” and tackles a conceptual problem many people have concerning the efficacy of prayer:

    “I should like to deal with a difficulty that some people find about the whole idea of prayer. A
    man put it to me by saying, ‘I can believe in God all right, but what I cannot swallow is the idea of Him attending to several hundred million human beings who are all addressing Him at the same moment.’ And I have found that quite a lot of people feel this

    “Now, the first thing to notice is that the whole sting of it comes in the words at the same moment. Most of us can imagine God attending to any number of applicants if only they came one by one and He had an endless time to do it in. So what is really at the back of this difficulty is the idea of God having to fit too many things into a moment of time.

    “Well that is of course what happens to us. Our life comes to us moment by moment. One moment disappears before the next comes along: and there is room for very little in each. That is what Time is like. And of course you and I tend to take for granted that this Time series –
    this arrangement of past, present and future – is not simply the way life comes to us but the way all things really exist. We tend to assume that the whole universe and God Himself are always moving on from past to future just as we do.”

    Well, Mr. Lewis has described a significant problem many people have in relating to the picture of God being faced with millions and millions of prayers from millions and millions of people all at the same time, and in response, he alludes to the simple fact that God does not experience the passage of time as we do. He calls into question the assumption many folks make and then leaves it to his readers to grapple with coming to terms with God’s perspective. Our finite minds
    can only scratch the very surface of infinity; our mortal minds struggle to grasp the reality of immortality. Think of it as you meet various people along the way each day, that those who have been “born again” of the Spirit are, in fact, already immortal beings who will outlive the existing universe as God brings His Sons and Daughters into the new , eternal universe. Since about every person you meet may be or potentially will be “born again” of the Spirit, maybe it would be a good idea if we dealt with those folks we meet with the appropriate respect due an immortal Son or Daughter of God. Yeah, I know – a silly thought since we would have to stop hating those who
    are a bit different than us or don’t see things the way we do and we would have to discard those convenient stereotypes and start looking at people as individuals with a story and a history all their own rather than simple a part of some demographic group. However, if we actually did that, we would begin to see others the way God sees them for the Holy Spirit within us will open our eyes to do so.

    Returning to the Time issue, I have heard a description of God’s relationship to Time as one where Time stretches out on a time line and God lives above it able to see all the points along the line all at once or in such manner as He sees fit. I have heard Time and our universe described as a bubble in eternity which eventually bursts when it is not needed any longer. The Bible says that with God, a day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day. I would suggest that we
    have a good idea about all this from mathematics, which tells us that between any point A and Point B there are an infinite number of points; and from computer technology as we see the second sliced up into ever smaller pieces until it is common to refer to nanoseconds, and certainly there is no stopping there. God is able to expand or contract His perspective of Time as we experience it which is why it is a bit ludicrous to talk about the universe being 15 billion years
    old when it just appears that way to us. Our “scientists” gauge the age based upon what they perceive as the edge of the universe and then back into the age through calculations involving the “speed of light”. But God is the one who created what they perceive and I can only wonder about the assumption that God is somehow bound by the “speed of Light”. The point is that in the context and reality of eternity, Time itself and its measurement has no meaning. Maybe we
    will see that the same uncertainty principle we see in quantum physics is also applicable to time.

    Forgive me if I have gone off the deep end these last few sentences. I strive to offer ideas and biblical concepts that challenge our limited thinking hoping to communicate and expansive vision of who we are in Christ – how our Father sees us which is the absolute reality whether we recognize it or not. And it is fake humility to disagree with God.

    • PatrickDownUnder

      Don’t apologise- I absolutely love this perspective and wasn’t aware CS Lewis had delved into it.

      I’ve always said, eternity is not "a lot of time". Eternity is the absence of the passage of time. God created time. It’s simply part of the dimensions in which we are prisoner, and He is not.

      It also makes His timing a little hard to understand  :)

      • jerseymark

        Thanks for your kind words. I am concerned about being too preachy.

      • SusanWo4p

        Interesting…I’ve never thought of "time" that way before.

    • BrianusBerkleianus

      Thanks so much, Jerseymark, for these profound reflections!!–they are very Timely :-) !!

      God bless.

      • jerseymark

        "very Timely" – hahaha – very cute BB.

        • BrianusBerkleianus

          :-) !!

  • Pete Petretich

    "3,485,931 likes" Sarah Palin is climbing again…

    • dave7777

       Too slow.

  • PatrickDownUnder

    Hi fellow Palinistas.

    Here’s a sobering bedtime story for America, well-articulated by a like-minded Aussie. "The little government that could"…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXlMFWmotSU

  • ZH100

    About media bias.
    ———

    ‘The Undefeated’ Review: ‘By Their Fruits Ye Shall Know Them’

    From the article:

    "With one legislative success after another and overwhelming bipartisan support, Governor Sarah Palin’s popularity was at a record high 88% according to Gallup’s empirical data — the highest approval rating on record for a sitting US Governor. With that kind of approval rating, Sarah stated "My administration must be doing something right

    She enjoyed those high approval ratings right up to the day her Blackberry rang and Senator McCain asked "Would you like to help me change history"?

    And so began their campaign for the White House.

    So, too, began another campaign — the one launched by the statists to destroy her. Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals teaches its disciples that you must take a person’s strengths and "isolate them". And that is exactly what they did. It was an organized strategy and the media gladly participated.

    http://cdn.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2011/06/17/The-Undefeated-Review–By-Their-Fruits-Ye-Shall-Know-Them

    • ZH100

      Book Excerpt: ‘Bring Her Down’: How the American Media Tried to Destroy Sarah Palin

      "No one would deny that the media have a right, indeed a duty, to inquire into and report extensively on the lives of political candidates. But it was unprecedented that the media would
      focus with laserlike intensity on one vice presidential candidate, almost to the exclusion of the other three candidates in the election, including the two running for the presidency.

      It is arguable that the media’s obsession with every detail of Sarah Palin’s life and career—and many details that existed only in the imaginations of her detractors—led directly to their neglecting to pay attention on any significant level to crucial details of then-Senator Barack Obama’s life and career.

      More than with any other presidential election in living memory, the members of the press seized control of the narrative of the 2008 election and held onto it.

      At first, in their minds, the story of the election was supposed to be the story of Barack Obama, who for many reasons had become their candidate of choice early in the process. But when Sarah Palin, coming out of nowhere with (in their eyes) inexplicable popularity, threatened their vision of Obama’s triumphal march to the White House, she had to be stopped, plain and simple. If the story now had to include her, they would simply have to ensure that her part of the story was told on their terms—and that it was the ugliest, most vicious, most damning story they could possibly dream up.

      The purpose of this book is to show why and how they created that story—and why so much of America, on so little evidence, was ready to believe it."

      http://conservatives4palin.com/2011/06/book-excerpt-bring-her-down%E2%80%99-how-the-american-media-tried-to-destroy-sarah-palin.html

      • ZH100

         ‘The Persecution of Sarah Palin: How the Elite Media Tried to Bring Down a Rising Star’  (by Matthew Continetti)

        "But the fascination of ordinary people quickly drew an unprecedented attack from the media
        elite and liberal activists. Far beyond the normal bounds of tough questions and challenges, Palin’s enemies decided that nothing was too personal to attack-including her marriage, her children, her faith, and her wardrobe.

        The media distorted Palin’s positions and beliefs beyond recognition. And almost every word out of her mouth was spun as a "flub."

        http://www.amazon.com/The-Persecution-Sarah-Palin-Rising/dp/1595230610

        • ZH100

          Mika Brzezinski Discusses Media Bias     (May 11, 2009)

          "Scarborough: You brought up Sarah Palin? You’re right, they were bashing Sarah Palin before they even knew Sarah Palin. They were scared of her.

          Brzezinski: Exactly. Let me make this clear because this is my world and these are the people I’ve
          worked with for twenty years. Members of the network media elite as well as members and people who worked for the New York Times, when Sarah Palin first came on the scene and this is what they knew about her:

          She was a woman, she was pro-life, and she had some very, very conservative views on other issues. And all I could hear from my friends in the network media elite was, "Let’s bring her down. I hope these rumors bring her down." And at a party where there were people from the New York Times, all they would talk about is the rumors that they hoped would bring her down.

          They did not know her. They didn’t know anything about her. But they wanted to bring her down."

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5G7NieqPQM

          • ZH100

            CAUGHT ON TAPE: Katie Couric Dissin’ Sarah Palin The Day John McCain Named Her As His Running Mate ‘ (August  2010)

            From the article:

            "There’s a larger story here, of course.

            It’s not just what was said by Couric in her discussion of Governor Palin, but also the way CBS framed the narrative of Governor Palin’s life in their story. The script covers moose burgers, her kids, her being a former beauty queen and being on the cover of Vogue.

            Sarah Palin was a sitting governor, and at that time, before the Obama campaign and their allies in the press spent months relentlessly smearing her good name, she had the highest approval ratings of any governor in the country.

            She was also responsible for getting the largest energy project in North American history underway after several decades of interminable delays in Alaska. She was a courageous corruption-busting whistleblower who turned in the leader of her own party in Alaska for his corrupt practices.

            She was a fiscal conservative who made the largest veto cuts in Alaska history, reined in the reckless waste, cut her own expenses, sold the governor’s private jet, let the personal chef go, and put away billions of dollars in savings for Alaska for a rainy day.

            She was a tough CEO who went toe to toe with the Big Oil companies and fought to get the best deal for Alaskans, the resource owners she represented. And she did all of this as a woman from a modest background who was entirely self-made – without the benefit of a rich or influential father or husband.

            But what in this impressive biography did CBS News and Couric choose to focus on? Moose burgers and beauty pageants.

            http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/caught-on-tape-katie-couric-dissin-sarah-palin-the-day-john-mccain-named-her-as-his-running-mate/

    • wodiej

      IMO, the liberals pulled a Saul Alinsky w Gov. Sarah Palin and conservatives fell for it-again.  I still believe a good part of it had to do w her being a woman too.  It sure wasn’t due to lack of charm and accomplishments.  

      • palin45potus

        You are 100% correct about the woman factor, much to the disgrace of the GOP.

        This is the unspoken dirty secret of the GOP.  The Dems know this weakness all too well and happily exploited it with Sarah, and when I think about it, they did it with Michele Bachmann in their dismissal of her once Sarah Palin was no longer the direct threat to the candidate they always wanted, Mitt.

        I have read the theory that some Evangelicals are uneasy with a woman in a leadership role.  I don’t subscribe to that conclusion of Biblical Instruction personally, but I understand where it comes from.

        My thinking is this:  If you were stranded by the side of the road in a snowstorm at night in Alaska, who would you prefer to happen upon you than Sarah Palin, or one of her equally capable sisters?  It wouldn’t be one of the beltway eunichs whose best talents seem to be surrendering in style.

  • John_Frank

    Good morning.

    Given that the Pew Research Center polling was more accurate than any of the other polling firms, it may help to read the following article published by Andrew Kohut, Pew Research Center President:
    Lessons from the 2012 Election
    http://www.people-press.org/2012/11/13/lessons-from-the-2012-election/

    Keep in mind the percentages quoted are based on exit polling data. As such the percentages depend on who showed up to vote.

    P.S. I stand with Sarah Palin.

    • wodiej

      Since Romney was never fully embraced by Republicans, I have to wonder what the hell were they thinking when they voted for him in the primaries. 

  • wodiej

    "For he who have believed, do enter that rest."  Hebrews 4:3

  • SusanWo4p

    I just realized something.

    Back in 2008, the media’s fictionalized investigation/coverage of the ongoing TROOPERGATE issue took center stage.

    2012.   Benghazi?  No Media investigation/coverage.

    In Troopergate, Sarah was tried and convicted by an aggressive tabloid-style propaganda campaign waged by the American media…all during the campaign season.

    With Benghazi we are all being "instructed" by our Media to let the "investigation be completed before conclusions are made."  No doubt, they are hoping for a BIGGER STORY to come along and sweep Benghazi further out to sea.

    Really breathtaking how much our Media works side by side with the Democrats.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YMXIAHSHFCMSCZ4CBM7TO5NC5I Joe Durnavich

    President Obama would like all of you at C4P to know that the word for today is "compliance."

    • wodiej

      yes, and my response to obama is "kiss my a**."  

      • virginiagentleman1

        ROFL!  Love it!  Ditto for me Wodiej!

  • wodiej

    Whisper of God

    “Be wary of those that may try to knock you over trying to get to where they are going or as they try to get ahead of you. Do not let yourself be taken advantage of. Stand strong and stand up for yourself, but do so in a manner that God would be proud of: being firm, fair, and respectful. God will recognize your efforts and open the doors to your reward.” 

    • Polarbearpapa

      Matthew 5

      38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth. 

      39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

      40 And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.

      41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.

      42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

      “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’

      44 But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

      45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on
      the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the
      unrighteous. 

      46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 

      47 And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?

      48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

      • sodakhic

        How many Christians are living those verses?

        • Polarbearpapa

          The real question is…..are any even trying….or have all surrendered to a social Gospel that embraces the ME culture?….

  • wodiej
    • Christopher H Fromme

      But we are stuck with cry baby for 2 more years.   Could not get a second vote

      • palin45potus

        The GOP wants to lose.

        And the Dems would cry themselves if we overthrow Boehner.

        They’d go to the mat to keep "The Town Crier" in office where he does them so much good.

        • senator20526

           The conservatives in the House voted to change the name of "Speaker of the House" to "Town Crier".      …….there I fixed it for you…

  • technopeasant

    "He who lives in the jungle is best equipped to fight wild beasts."

    The Cats-Paw (1934 movie)

    _________________________

    Major problems that GOP presidential standardbearers have had recently:

    1) Understanding the Zeitgeist or gaining some control over it

    2) Modern technology re: turning out the base

    3) Attracting younger voters and been see as groovy or hep and packaging the product to appeal to modern voters

    4) Lack of understanding of the law of the jungle, futile in dealing with gangsterism and Alinksy tactics

    5) Understanding the dynamics of the jungle and the danger presented by each resident to one’s health and safety and where to seek sanctuary and stop oneself from remaining exposed to danger.

    6) Political operatives who are not simpatico with conservative voters; conservatives are treated like pariahs or citizens of the jungle no one wants to associate with even though it would be extremely advantageous to form an alliance with out of mutual benefit.

    7) Hiring elitist egghead, ivory-tower types rather than streetwise folks; they remind me of the old Tarzan movies where the white bwana would lead his caravan into the jungle and he had no clue what he was up against on the ground: his knowledge was only through books and magazine articles.

    8) Understanding how to rebut MSM propaganda or undermine the Left when they use it

    9) Not understanding the passion that exists in the base and not taking a survival of the fittest approach one needs to survive in the jungle; not understanding the dynamics of a street fight

    10) Not understanding how people think and speak in the jungle and thus not able to rebut ideas which are communicated in "jungle language" with "jungle fever" by our enemies. Not understanding how to unify the folks in the jungle behind a central idea. If anyone was an expert in doing that it would be President Obama.

    • Ory Nicholas

      Haha I think they’re never seen as cool because they still think people say "groovy" and "hep."

      You’re right though, as usual.

  • wodiej

    GOP needs to leave Bush era behind along w Rove….that’s the understatement of the decade

    http://www.therightscoop.com/gop-needs-to-leave-bush-era-behind-including-and-especially-karl-rove/

  • stlouisix

    Obama: Hurricane Sandy Response ‘How I Want the Federal Gov’t to Operate Generally’
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-hurricane-sandy-response-how-i-want-federal-govt-operate-generally

    Yep, Sandy was something that you can really be proud of Barry, as an example of how your sorry government is incapable of getting anything right, not that you care. And this is the group that is going to manage that monstrosity of a health care debacle that they unconstitutionally foisted upon us with special incentives for doctors to get seniors to check out early, so much for their golden years, by the "caring" Barry, the biggest fraud that ever held office in the history of the world!

    With pot legal, police worry about road safety
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pot-legal-police-worry-about-road-safety

    Wow, nothing like considering a problem after you directly caused it. What about what legalizing pot does to encourage the use of harder drugs, which is well documented, per what I’m hearing from my oldest son, a State Trooper, who deals with these types on a daily basis, in particular getting them off the road to keep them from killing themselves and others? Is this promoting the common good which is supposed to be the state’s highest priority? Only someone high on drugs would answer yes, and therein lies the problem with the inmates running the asylum!

    U.S., Australia Make ‘A Major Leap Forward’ on Space Surveillance
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-australia-make-major-leap-forward-space-surveillance

    It is a violation of the fundamental principle of non-contradiction in that "Something cannot ‘be’ and ‘not be’ at the same time in the same respect" to express a concern about the military capabilities of communist states while concurrently hollowing out our own military by unilaterally disarming them both materially and morally under the leadership of individuals whose resumes are proof positive that they despise our military, which defines the sham Obama Administration that never met an American military capability critical to national defense that couldn’t be negotiated away. This is why Putin is on record of being delighted with Comrade Obama’s reelection, as he understands that any concern professed by Obama for America’s national security is feigned, given that the Manchurian Candidate Obama is destroying America’s economy which puts America’s defense in grave peril!

  • jgrimes

    I stand w Sarah Palin….

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