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  • ZH100

    Good morning all.

    Excellent article about Gov.Palin’s record of accomplishments.

    ‘Who Is the Real Sarah Palin?’

    From the article:

    Executive Authority and Success

    Palin was the first female and youngest governor to be elected in Alaska, which is tied for the second most powerful governorship in the United States, according to Thad Beyle, a political scientist at the University of North Carolina.

    Budgeting and Spending

    Palin cut state spending between 2007 and 2010 by 9.5% while also reducing federal earmark requests by more than 80% during her tenure. She used her line-item veto to cut more than a quarter billion in superfluous spending in both 2007 and 2008. In 2009, she instituted a temporary hiring freeze, while at the same time reducing spending by more than 33% between FY2009 and FY2010.

    In stark contrast to President Obama and other governors whose fiscal records are dogged by credit downgrades, Palin left Alaska with an improved credit rating during and following her tenure as governor.  Standard & Poor’s raised Alaska’s credit rating from AA to AA+ in April 2008. Then in 2010, both Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s upgraded Alaska to AAA for the first time in the state’s history due to policies enacted by Palin that made the state’s finances more than solvent.  


    Under Palin’s leadership, Alaska was 2nd in job growth, and 3rd in the change in its unemployment rate, compared to the other states. Alaska also saw a record number of oil jobs in both 2008 and 2009, while natural resource and logging jobs increased 13.7% during Palin’s tenure.

    In fact, Palin’s record on jobs compared to the country as a whole was stronger than the President’s and other prominent governors’ during their respective tenures

    Business Growth

    Alaska was an opportunity society under Palin. Alaska moved up from the 4th most business tax-friendly state to the 3rd most business tax-friendly state during her tenure.

    Palin was a firm believer in tax cuts. In addition to lowering unemployment insurance tax rates, she cut business license fees in half, suspended the state motor fuel tax, and signed legislation, allowing Alaska-based businesses the same opportunities as out-of-state businesses. All of this was consistent with her record as Mayor of Wasilla, where she eliminated small business inventory taxes and cut property tax mill levies every year she was in office.


    Energy issues are Palin’s forte, and her record proves it. In 2007, Governor Palin signed ACES—Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share—a net tax on oil profits that was passed in a bipartisan and transparent manner. ACES replaced the corruption-tainted oil tax plan of the previous administration, which was passed in secret and ultimately lead to the federal indictment of several Alaskan state officials and oil company personnel. Furthermore, ACES provided oil companies with incentives to develop. The progressivity of the tax meant producers were protected when oil prices were low, but the interest of the resource owners—the people of Alaska—were appropriately protected as well to achieve a fair return for their resource.

    Most importantly, ACES led to jobs, increased development, and a huge surplus for Alaska.

    Perhaps Palin’s biggest energy achievement was spearheading the creation of the Alaska natural gas pipeline. After five decades of unsuccessful attempts by Alaskan administrations to bring a gas pipeline project into existence, Palin and her team introduced the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) in March 2007. AGIA passed the Legislature by a vote of 57-1 in May of that year.

    Unlike the behind-closed-doors cronyism of past administrations, Palin’s AGIA legislation was conducted out in the open and made use of a genuine free-market competitive bidding process. Palin’s AGIA placed not only Alaska, but also the nation, further on the path toward energy independence.

    Palin played hardball with the big oil companies in her state. According to the Alaska state constitution, Alaskans are the resource owners in their state; and it was Palin’s duty as their CEO to get the best deal for Alaskans while at the same time partnering with these oil companies for the mutual benefit of all.

    Ethics Reform and Transparency

    Ethics reform was the hallmark of Palin’s governorship. She was swept into office on a reform message in a state with a serious corruption problem. Alaska at the time was undergoing a federal investigation that culminated in the indictment of various corrupt lawmakers. Palin had made a name for herself as an ethics crusader when she chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservative Commission and blew the whistle on fellow commissioner and state GOP head Randy Ruedrich for doing party business on state time. This resulted in Ruedrich receiving a $12,000 fine—the largest civil fine for ethics in the state’s history. Alaskans respected the fact that Palin was not afraid of taking on the establishment of her own party.

    As governor, Palin fought for and signed sweeping bipartisan ethics legislation, which restricted lobbyists, improved disclosure laws, and improved executive and legislative branch ethics laws. In the face of corruption, she continued to take on her own party when it was necessary. She also increased transparency by releasing her oil tax bill to her constituents 17 days prior to the special legislative session, opening up natural gas pipeline deals to all potential parties, putting the state checkbook online, and not allowing lobbyists in her office.


    Palin forward funded education to allow districts greater flexibility, supported increased vocational training and early education funding, opened up opportunity to Alaskan students to participate in regional medical schools, and increased overall funding for special needs education by 175% (before she herself became the mother of son with special needs). Believing that the best reform was close to home, Palin wisely also chose to monitor rather than participate in national standards for education.

    Health Care

    Palin introduced health care transparency legislation that established an Alaska health care information office to give consumers factual information on quality and cost to help them make better-informed health care decisions. Recognizing that health care must be market-and business-driven, rather than restricted by government, Palin proposed repeal of Certificate of Need—a layer of bureaucracy that prevents medical facility development. She established the Alaska Health Strategies Planning Council, reduced Medicaid assessments by 83%, and expanded Alaska’s SeniorCare benefits program for low-income seniors.

  • ZH100

    ‘Setting the Record Straight – Sarah Palin and Sex Education’

    From the article:

    "NPR got it wrong back in 2008. As did the The Washington Post, MSNBC, ABC News and  The Wallstreet Journal .Unfortunately, many feminists have followed the misinformation of the mainstream media."

  • ZH100

    How the Palin emails backfired on the media.

    ‘Sarah Palin email witch hunt backfires – squeaky clean good governor!’

    From the article:

    "The release of Sarah Palin’s emails backfires, as not only does she come off as squeaky clean, she looks like a very hard working governor by the looks of these communications. According to NPR, nothing of any concern was found among the thousands of Palin emails released."

    ‘American Way: Sarah Palin email frenzy backfires on her media antagonists’

    Form the article:

    "The trove of more than 13,000 emails detailing almost every aspect of Sarah Palin’s governorship of Alaska, released late on Friday, paints a picture of her as an idealistic, conscientious, humorous and humane woman slightly bemused by the world of politics.

    One can only assume that the Left-leaning editors who dispatched teams of reporters to remote Juneau, the Alaskan capital, to pore over the emails in the hope of digging up a scandal are now viewing the result as a rather poor return on their considerable investment.

    If anything, Mrs Palin seems likely to emerge from the scrutiny of the 24,000 pages, contained in six boxes and weighing 275 pounds, with her reputation considerably enhanced. As a blogger at Powerline noted, the whole saga might come to be viewed as “an embarrassment for legacy media”.

    ‘Operation Backfire: E-Mails Prove Sarah Palin Was A Great Governor’

    From the article:

    "Governor Palin conducted the business of her state in a transparent, bi-partisan, and responsible manner. She worked long, hard hours and treated everyone with respect. America is finding out that Palin is a smart, effective, fiscally responsible leader whose goal has always been to serve the people she represents.

    She knows how to prioritize, delegate, and choose the most qualified and competent people to serve with her. America is learning that even in the face of death threats from crazed liberals, Gov. Palin just kept working and putting Alaska and Alaskans first."

    ‘The Sarah Palin email mania backfires on the media’

    From the article:

    "As 13,000 emails of the former Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, were released on Friday, the Liberal main-stream media scurried down to Juneau, Alaska to collect 24,000 pages of what they thought could be a damning story.

    Dozens of major news publications released the 24,000 pages online to find something to smear the possible 2012 Republican contender, but their search came out dry.

    Instead, what they found was a hard-at-work governor leading the great state of Alaska.

    In detail, the emails display her down-to-earth tenure as governor and the policies she put in place while serving the 49th state."

    CNN finding that Palin was hard-working governor


    The real Sarah Palin (March,2012)

    Emails reveal her to be an effective hands-on leader

    From the article:

    The Sarah Palin who emerges from the email dump isn’t the partisan snowbilly of media caricature. She’s a tough-minded reformer who took on Big Oil and corrupt members of her own party and beat them.

    Film shows Palin’s someone to admire

    From the article:

    "And it’s exactly what most Americans expected 24,000 pages of personal and business emails to reveal about former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. Obsessive news hounds scrounged through pages and pages, looking for damning information that could wipe the outspoken conservative from America’s political scene.

    What they found, though not so widely publicized, was the inner workings of an efficient, informed and very involved governor that mounted an unprecedented 80 plus approval rating while in office. The people of Alaska loved her and appreciated her backbone and focus on making their state a better place."

    Palin: the emails, the Paul Revere flap, and the foolish media

    From the article:

    "Similarly, the mainstream media stands with egg dripping all over its face, yet again. Nothing in the emails contains the slightest hint that Palin was anything other than a hard-working Governor, a caring mother and wife, and an all-around good-natured human being…not exactly what the death squads of WaPo, the NYT, and other mainstream outlets had in mind.

    This shockingly laughable scenario is in sharp contrast to the manner in which the media handled Barack Obama, whom it woefully failed to properly investigate in 2007-08. Where were all of the reporters who should have been camped outside the door of domestic terrorist William Ayers, who launched Obama’s political career from his living room?"

    Rush on Palin’s emails: What a spectacular backfire!

    From the article:

    "Rush started his show today noting what a spectacular backfire on the media it was that Sarah Palin withstood the media looking for dirt in every syllable of her 24,000 emails. He wonders who else could have withstood such an analysis.

    Gov. Palin has been microscopically analyzed on an unprecedented level and she still comes up clean. I doubt anyone else could have withstood the intense scrutiny that she has undergone.

    • ZH100

      Politico: Emails Bolster the Message in ‘The Undefeated’  (June 11 2011)

      Form the article:

      "It says something when even the Politico, not exactly known for their unbiased Palin coverage, is conceding that this surreal “colonoscopy” by the cartoonish mainstream media is backfiring.  And that’s exactly what it’s doing.  Much to the media’s chagrin, the emails show a serious and highly effective executive who was in full control of her administration. As Tim Crawford indicated yesterday, everyone should read the emails."

  • ZH100

    Gov. Palin was the catalyst for the takeover of the House , twice as many Governships and lopsided Gop Statehouses during the 2010 election.

    ‘2010 Elections: The Palin Effect ‘ (By: bbila ,2010)

    From the article:

    "With that being said, Palin’s 71% endorsement success rate thus far—52 wins out of 73 declared races featuring Palin-endorsed candidates (eight additional races are undecided as of 1:30 p.m. on November 4)—is impressive, especially considering that she embraced a number of underdogs in traditionally blue states.

    Of particular importance is the fact that eighteen of the twenty candidates backed in Palin’s Take Back the 20 initiative have won their races (one race is undecided as of 1:30 p.m. on November 4). That’s a 90% success rate.

    When Mediaite, CBS, and NBC—despite some incomplete stats—are all in agreement that Palin had a great night, it just may be one for the books."

  • ZH100

    As Governor Palin has said many times, she advocates for an “all of the above” approach to energy independence which includes solar, wind, nuclear, and clean coal in addition to the more traditional oil, gas, and coal.

    She supported development of renewable energy sources, developing a plan to have 50% of Alaska’s energy to be produced from renewable sources by the year 2025.

    ‘Palin unveils state energy goals; 2025 GOAL: At least 50 percent of state’s power to be from alternative sources.’    (January , 2009)

    "Gov. Sarah Palin has crossed swords with conservation groups over petroleum drilling, but she earned nothing but praise Friday after announcing the most ambitious renewable energy goals in the nation. At a news conference announcing her statewide energy plan, Palin called for 50 percent of Alaska’s power to be generated by renewable resources by 2025."

    ‘Sarah Palin’s Goal Of 50% Renewable Energy Use In Alaska Signed Into Law’ (June , 2010)

    From the article:

    "One of the first things Barack Obama did, once he took office, was to announce a pretty ambitious goal of having the United States get 25 percent of it’s energy from renewable sources by the year 2025. To date, little if anything, has been done by the Obama regime to reach this goal.

    On January 21, 2009 (Obama’s first full day at work) Sarah Palin, writing in the Wall Street Journal, praised this initiative strongly, while reminding Obama that conventional sources of energy will always be needed. She also announced that she was working on the goal of having Alaska get a full 50 percent of it’s energy from renewables in that same 2025 time frame."

    • ZH100

      Gov.Palin was one of the first governors that has created a sub-cabinet group of advisers to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions within Alaska and to recommend common-sense policies to respond to the coastal erosion, thawing permafrost and retreating sea ice that affect Alaska’s communities and infrastructure.

  • ZH100

    Excellent read!

    ‘Governor Palin Used Her Executive Authority to Make Government Smaller and More Ethical’  (August,2011)

    From the article:

    "Executives at any level of government could use their power to grow government spending and power and to reward cronies or those who donated to their campaign.

    Governor Palin is the only one who has a proven record of using her power to make the government smaller and less powerful.  Governor Palin used her power to reduce government spending and state reliance on the federal funding. She desired to increase individual choice, not create individual mandates.  

    She used her executive authority to make government more ethical and transparent while removing cronyism rather than perpetuating it.

  • wodiej

    "When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow you."  Isaiah 43:2

    • BHappy

      Mark 4:35-40 shortened by me.
      Jesus and the disciples went out on the sea, a furious squall came up and the waves broke over the boat, so it nearly swamped.
        Jesus was sleeping, the disciples woke him and said:
      "Teacher, don’t you care if we drown?"  He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves "Quiet, be still!"
       He said to his disciples, "Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?"
      They were terrified and asked each other, "Who is this? EVen the wind and the waves obey him!"

      • wodiej


  • Christopher H Fromme

    One of my stops in DC was the RNC to drop off a letter to Chairman Priebus  Thanks to Section9 for parts of the letter which I also included an O4P SARAH Palm Card.
    Chairman Priebus,

    The GOP has lamented about their inability to enlarge the tent to appeal to a wider electorate not realizing that the most effective way to do it is the way that Gov. Palin does it.  To the GOP, enlarging the tent meant drifting to the left and becoming Democrat-light.  That never works of course because anyone who is predisposed to liberal ideology would vote Democrat, instead of voting for a wishy-washy Republican imitating a liberal. We have nominated moderates ever since Ronald Reagan.  GHW Bush in 92 after Read-My-Lips, Dole could not capitalize on the success of the Republican congress and be a
    Conservative,  GW Bush turned into a big spender and we lost Congress in 06 and then the next in line McCain &Romney who would not fight for the job of President.

         Instead, Gov. Palin appeals to a wide spectrum of voters not by drifting to the left or by
    flip-flopping and pandering to the latest political whims, but by her commonsense ideas, clear political leadership and above all, her unflinching stand on conservative principles.  She is a person of conviction that will be able to clean up the mess left by President Obama and the spineless leadership of the Republican party.

         Like Reagan before her, who won the support of Blue-dog Democrats, Palin has strong support not only from conservatives, but also from independents and many former Democrats. 
    Her appeal is so broad and strong, that both establishment Democrats and Republicans are threatened by her potential ability to draw voters away from their core constituencies.

         So the question that I pose to you Chairman Priebus is do you want someone that can beat anyone that the Democrats run in 2016 Including Hillary Clinton.  Or do you want to watch America be flushed away.   After the historic wins in 2010 that was due to the grassroots Tea Party with leadership on many fronts by Sarah Palin we were told thanks for the help but sit down and shut up.

         Here’s a thought, take a trip to Alaska and maybe go Salmon fishing with Todd & Sarah.  Find the common ground that you can expand on to build the conservative base.   Also keep in mind that Organize 4Palin had a nationwide network of volunteers that were ready if she ran in 2012 and are hoping that Sarah Palin will Restore America to greatness once again in 2016. 
    But first Conservatives must win back the Senate in 2014.   I got involved after watching Sarah Palin
    speak at the 2008 RNC convention.

    Christopher H Fromme— Elected Committee-Man  Allegheny County   PA   


    • misterlogic0013

       walking the walk, not telling people how to think, your great example of what matters .. many thanks from my family and me .. 

    • Isabel Matos

      Priebus gets paid to turn a blind eye and let America flush away while we are wiling to move mountains for nothing to tell the truth.  He will never open your mail, but I would like to take it and share it somewhere else with your permission. Add it to the pile I am archiving for a rainy day.. ;).

      Great job, by the way!!

  • palin45potus

    Ahhh, the Brits!  So much more worldly and sophisticated than us Yankees.  Cassy Fiano (A blogger who used to write about Sarah Palin often and is the mother of a child with Downs Syndrome) fills us in on the latest "Health News" from Liverpool and what Sarah called "Death Panels"  You might wanna take a deep breath before reading this, because it’s sickening:

    “A Fantastic Step Forward”: Tens of thousands sentenced to death on the Liverpool Care Pathway without consent

    by Cassy Fiano January 4, 2013 

    Sarah Palin once warned of death panels resulted from socialized medicine. She was mocked for the label, but the United Kingdom’s NHS hospitals are seemingly striving to prove that Palin was correct. The Liverpool Care Pathway has become notorious for its supposed end-of-life treatment. Over time, it has come to light that the so-called end-of-life “care” really consists of slowly starving and dehydrating patients to death, even children, who are put on the pathway not for being terminally ill, but simply for being disabled.

    Now, more shocking news has come to the surface. It turns out that half of all patients placed on the pathway are not informed. Almost 60,000 patients are sentenced to death on the pathway, usually to end up sedated, starved, and dehydrated until they die, and are not asked for their consent first. Thousands of these patients are not even given regular medication to ease their slow, agonizing death.

    The new disclosures demonstrate just how routinely hospitals are placing patients on the pathway without informing them that steps which could hasten their death have been taken. The national audit found:

    • In 44 per cent of cases when conscious patients were placed on the pathway, there was no record that the decision had been discussed with them.

    • For 22 per cent of patients on the pathway, there was no evidence that comfort and safety had been maintained while medication was administered.

    • One in three families of the dying never received a leaflet they should have been given to explain the process.

    And while health secretary Jeremy Hunt decried these abuses as unacceptable, he still maintains that the Liverpool Care Pathway is “a fantastic step forward”.

    Mr Hunt told LBC radio: “It’s a fantastic step forward, the Liverpool care pathway, and we need to be unabashed about that.

    “It’s basically designed to bring hospice-style care to terminally-ill people in hospitals. Inevitably people do die in hospital but they weren’t getting the quality of care in those final few hours.”

    Mr Hunt said many patients did not want to die “with lots of tubes going in and out of their body” but would prefer their final moments with their families to be “dignified”.

    “The Liverpool care pathway was developed with Marie Curie, with Macmillan, with Age UK and a number of other charities, to try and bring that dignity to people in their last moments,” he said.

    To claim that slowly starving people to death, without even obtaining their consent or that of their family, is somehow dignified or merciful is horrific. This is legalized murder, yet Mr. Hunt defends the program as “a fantastic step forward”. How unacceptable can these deaths truly be to him if he can still look at this and praise it as he does?

    This also shows what happens when we, as a society, devalues life. Protecting life goes so much further than just protecting the unborn. The lives of the elderly, of people with disabilities, have proven to be disposable, just like the lives of our unborn children. All life is valuable, and when we stop seeing that, horrors such as these are the result.

    (Click the link for the story)


    I have always believed that beyond the (R) on her voter’s registration, the issue that drives the loony left to insanity about Sarah Palin was her willingness to bring a child into this world with a disability.

    The left follows the intellectual musings of the Cass Sunsteins and the Dr Emmanuels and "Science Czar" John Holdren. In the most extreme cases, they speculate among themselves that the earth’s "Carrying Capacity" is about a billion people, after that point humanity is a plague upon "Mother Earth"

    This means that fore than 80 % of us are a disease upon the earth. Think about the implications of this when we observe actual leftist policy-making. They view for than 4 out of 5 of us as unworthy of living, and we really shouldn’t even be here.

    We ignore these people’s most outrageous statements at our peril.

    • 1776er

      It is probably only a matter of time before politically  inconvenient individuals in the U.S. find themselves involuntarily committed and placed on the "Pathway".  

      The Marxists will contend that it is a "fabulous step FORWARD!"

  • Isabel Matos

    Here is the list of all who voted (or not) for Speaker Boehner:

    Bachmann really outdid herself on this one. I have said all I have had to say about her. Let’s look at the good ones (too few) who actually deserve our praise and attention.

    How did your representative do?? We should be on the phone or their FB wall and let them know how disappointed we are!! It’s OUR PARTY, gosh darnit.

    • virginiagentleman1

      I thank you for your research and the list milady Isabel. Looks to me as if Boehners re-election as Speaker was a slam dunk.
      But as for the republican party being "our party"?  It hasn’t been "ours" in decades. All one has to do is look at the list you’ve provided and one will notice that a MAJORITY of conservatives voted in Boehners favor, NOT against him.
      I left the republican party during Reagans years in the White House. A party that is hell-bent on stopping it’s own president and his reforms is a party that has lost its way, and even worse, its principles.
      At this time in our history, we as conservatives do not appear to have ANY representation in Congress. Those that Sarah Palin worked so hard to help get elected since 2008, seem to have turned their backs on her and, on us, milady.
      While I admire you for your devotion to the republican party’s platform, they themselves do not adhear to its principles. Saving the republican party from its own arrogance and self-centeredness doesn’t appear any more likely then saving the democrat party. How does one save something or someone who is bent on its own destruction?
      Honestly, with as much energy as you expend in their behalf, if you gave a true conservative party the same energy  Isabel, we would HAVE a voice in the Halls of Congress.
      Yes, I am aware that at this time there is not a real conservative party. The closest would be a loosely confederated group of folks known as ‘Tea Parties’.
      And therein lays the problem. There is not a cohesive bond between them. A national voice requires a national party, something the Tea Party has yet to become.

      Any suggestions?

      • Isabel Matos


        I do have a lot of energy, and a lot of people always share suggestions as to how I can best use it and I listen intently, but I follow my own advice in the end and the little voice in my head that keeps saying "if you do what is right, and expect others to do the same, in time, everything falls into place". I have been doing pretty well that way, at least I think so, in the short year and a half I have been involved in this movement.

        About being an R. I left the party because the party left me after Ronald Reagan finished serving his second term, and 41 took his place, but I continued to vote R despite them. I always have. I don’t want to be an I anymore. It’s just that the message has been hijacked by the Bush Progressive Agenda.  It would be nice to be a revitalized Ronald Reagan Republican again. We can do it! 

        Although I would love to romanticize about it, and I have.., I believe that running from the party is not going to save you or me.  It is time-consuming and very expensive.  Many people would disagree on how it should be run and by who.  Just take a look at how many opinions people have in just one thread, let alone an apparatus that requires hundreds of millions of dollars to run.  Not a good idea after giving it some thought, but let’s see what happens. 

        This lousy GOP house of cards has to collapse to prove the message failed.. kind of like the Berlin wall of our Party.  And we have to be there to pick it up. I dont’ know how except that..

        To me, it’s cheaper to make our politicians honest. They need us to be vigilant.  Not in a general sense, but specifically with names and visits and relationships that we should establish with them. I like to compare it to supervising your children’s homework after-school. Once they know you’re watching, athe ones who slip through the cracks tend to crawl back up and even thrive.

        If you can’t watch or supervise your politicians, which is much easier than starting a new machine, then how on Earth would you dream of people agreeing on how to start a New Third Party. It just doesn’t make sense.

        I would like to know in specific terms, who your representative is, and what you are doing to let him or her know how you feel.  The GOP loves your indifference and doesn’t have anything to lose if you don’t care about them. I choose to think that we send good people and they become corrupt in D.C. So let’s help the good people clean up their acts, and answer to us. That corruption IS what the establishment mindset has done to them.. given them a sense of entitlement that YOU as a voter have to reclaim.

        That’s a mouthful. Just a drop in the bucket for one day.  Thanks for reading. I have more on this matter (GOP reform and VOter Reform) if you are interested.

        • virginiagentleman1

          Specifly, Robert Hurt. As to what I do to let him know how I feel, you just might have noticed that I am not shy about expressing my opinion! Letters and phone calls are deftly intercepted by his staff and the usual ‘form’ replys are spouted. As military pilots say, no joy.
          I understand your point of holding the repubs accountable and possilby changing it from within. I just don’t agree that either direction is worth it.
          I’ve visited your site and have read your material. It is intriging, but I do not feel that the republicans are worth the effort.
          Once I am lied to, I see no point in giving them another chance.

          • Isabel Matos

            Good answer!!  At least you are trying. But the GOP wants you to be discouraged. Don’t be. They want us to run. We can’t do a Third Party right now. That is just my opinion.

            And one more thing.. just because you shared who your representative is, I will share who I am planning to confront ~ Marco Rubio. Arrangements are being made for us to have our questions answered. I don’t expect anyone to change, but they have to absorb our viewpoint. Consider this strategy a little divide to conquer, lOl) We apply positive pressure in exchange for their loyalty and good behavior. Who can resist such a good deal?

            Again, like children who don’t do their h.w. It’s up to US is the point I’m trying to make. I’m not getting my hopes up but I don’t think being just angry is enough. This is 24/7 on our part and then some.. Thanks again, Virginia Gentleman. :)

            • virginiagentleman1

              I’m not in the least bit discouraged milady! To be discouraged would mean that I would have to care about them and their party, and the truth is that I do not care. Period.

              Isabel, I value your opinion and I believe that you could have a future in politics if that is your desire.
              I have to tell you though, I am not at all convinced that a third party has ‘no chance’. I believe that the time is now, and the future looks good for the formation and growth of a conservative third party.

              At least you are willing to entertain other thoughts as regards the GOP!
              Another commenter here, a dear friend, Yankee4palin is a diehard GOP supporter. We butt heads all of the time over the GOP issue!

              • Isabel Matos

                The GOP sucks, and I am a really angry voter.  I just think that we have members who we have sent to DC with an R next to their name, who I think I beyond salvageable, and you’re saying we should to change the tables on them by changing our own party affiliation or creating a New Party on them? 

                That takes some thought on our part. It doesn’t sound fair to me.  I do not think Sarah Palin would go to the trouble of having Republicans elected to then become something other than a Republican. It’s easy to complain but change has to come from within for real change to take place.  Something terrible is happening to the leaders of the party but something great can come out of the corruption that exists.  From ashes great leaders are born.

                And persuasion sometimes yields more power.  Sarah leads. I follow. But Im not just standing by. 

                Darn, I wanted to post without an edit lOl!!! Edit added: If you check yesterday’s thread I had a confrontation with him, too!! It was awesome!!! I felt great to set the Yankee Rino straight.

                • golfmom3

                  Yankee is a she. She began with Goldwater so her red blood runs deep.

  • wodiej


  • DocBarry1

    Michelle Bachman has been a fake for a long time – shame on her – when it counts she folds

    • Brian

      She has changed but so have others like marsha blackburn. She is not alone in folding like a cheap suit. She has been my rep. Mn. house and senate. Also congress. Until she ran for pres. she was solid. Go Vikes.

      • DocBarry1

        There r few if any like Gov Palin – it just saddens me more to learn how many so called Conservatives – fold – it doesn’t matter if they write columns, are on TV/Cable News, consultants etc – Shame on them for how they have treated The Tea Party and, especially, Gov Palin – the silence when she is attacked or her family is attacked is appalling –

        I just pray and hope that Gov Palin decides to run for the Presidency, she will then give Americans a real choice, she can run her campaign her way with her people – if she does this – she is a winner no matter the Vote

        May God continue to Bless Governor Palin and her family

        May all of Governor Palin supporters continue to be inspired in 2013 – 2016 by this great American

        • wodiej

          Actually I think we are missing the point if we think Gov. Palin is one of few who can bring light. Each and every person can bring light, hope, faith and change to this world.  Gov. Palin is a unique soul and I get the feeling that many really do not understand that.  They are thinking what she can do for them instead of what her real purpose is.  But I have a good feeling that she  either knows or is on her way to knowing what her purpose is. 

          We can all make a difference.  It will take all of us to do it.

          • DocBarry1

            I agree with you 100%, but we are discussing the Public arena – Gov Palin said that you do not need a title – do you think obama would be destroying the country without his title of President? I think not!

            My basic point is that so many so-called conservative pundits, politicians etc have let us down – Gov Palin has only let us down by not running, which was her choice, but I do not see any other current politician or former politician that I trust more than Gov Palin.

            So yes, we make a difference, we are special and unique in our own way but look around – obama is running right over the GOPe and no one is stopping him  – The House has so much power when you discuss money issues and yet they fold and fold again

            But yes, I agree with you – enjoy 2013

  • 1776er

    Ya gotta love it.

    Headline on Front Page of Today’s Washington Compost:

    Sector’s recovery could boost overall economy

    Headline on Front Page of Today’s Wall Street Journal:

    Unemployment rate hits 7.8% as Economy stays sluggish; Politics Cloud Prospects for New Hiring

    Well, which is it?

    What this tells me is that from here on in the LSM propaganda machine is going to be telling us–Pravda like–that everything is swell and hunky dory in the Leviathan Welfare State.  Couldn’t be better.  Things are looking up.  Doesn’t every dictatorship get around to doing that sooner or later?

    I think the editors of the WSJ must check in on C4P from time to time.  Yesterday, I noted that the equity markets have surged since the Fiscal Cliff "compromise".  I asked why?  Today, the WSJ editorial page gives us the answer.  Here is the WSJ’s more sober assessment of what drives the market these days.  The truth set forth below should give anybody with any money in the market some reason for caution:

    "Once upon a time, the U.S. monthly jobs report would move markets as an indicator of the health of the private economy. These days, the employment news moves markets mainly based on how quickly it might cause the Federal Reserve to change its ultraloose monetary policy. These days in markets, money trumps jobs.

    That’s one lesson from this week’s post-fiscal cliff economic news. On Thursday, the Fed released the minutes of its December Open Market Committee meeting, which disclosed that there was more dissent over the Fed’s open-ended bond buying than previously believed.This isn’t what some investors wanted to hear. Stock and commodity prices around the world promptly fell on the news about the Fed minutes, underscoring the degree to which asset prices are floating on expectations of continued Fed easing.

    But never worry. On Friday came another mediocre jobs report—and stocks and the rest of the riskier-asset plays rebounded despite this sign of still not-so-great economic growth. Why? Because investors believe that the weaker the jobs report, the more likely the Fed will keep buying bonds as far as the eye can see. So weakness equals strength, at least in stocks. So goes a financial world dominated by the decisions of central bankers.

    Meanwhile, back in the real economy, slow growth continues to define the job market. The economy created 155,000 net new jobs, essentially the same as the 153,000 average monthly pace for all of 2012, which was the same as the average monthly gain in 2011. The jobless rate stayed at 7.8%, after the November rate had been adjusted up a tic from 7.7% due to the Labor Department’s annual revisions.

    The Keynesians who run the U.S. economy these days are predicting better days ahead now that the worst of the fiscal cliff has been dodged and the housing market is coming back. We’ll see if they’re right, but meanwhile markets are likely to keep their eyes mainly on the masters of the economic universe at the Fed."

    Stocks rebounded despite this sign of still not-so-great economic growth (to put it mildly).  Why 1776er? Because investors believe that the weaker the jobs report, the more likely the Fed will keep buying bonds as far as the eye can see.  So weakness equals strength, at least in stocks.

    Oh, I see.  Weakness equals strength.  That’s what the Compost keeps telling us.  That’s what George Orwell told us.  Double speak double thought is operative in the stock market.  

    Markets go through cycles where bad news is good news and good news is bad news.  That lasts for awhile.  But it doesn’t last forever.  Sooner or later bad news is just bad news.  And "investors" at some point throw in the towel and insist on seeing good news.  Real good news.  

    This WSJ editorial also notes somewhat ominously that:

    "The December jobs survey is the last one before the tax and spending increases of the fiscal-cliff deal kick in. That legislation contains a two-percentage-point increase in the payroll tax rate, which means a higher cost for working. The bill also includes another one-year extension in jobless benefits of up to 99 weeks, which is an incentive not to work. Neither policy will help job creation in 2013."

    What the WSJ didn’t mention is that Obamacare begins to kick in during 2013 as well.  Decisions on hiring previously held in limbo will now be finalized.  And the news for job seekers will be bad.  Really bad.  Americans, if not "investors".  are going to conclude, and mighty soon in 2013, that bad news is just bad news.

    • Audrey_I

      The ultra low Federal Funds rates mean that wealthy Wall Street Bankers can borrow at less than one percent and put it in the stock market.  Most of the Dow companies are paying at least a three percent dividend, and with various hedging schemes, these investors can enjoy unlimited upside potential and minimal downside potential and collect a dividends at the same time. 

      The people who are really hurting are those who are retired and are trying to make do with their one half of one percent return on their CD’s.

  • Jean_A

    Good morning, C4P!

    I stand with Sarah Palin.

    • jester2939

      Me too, Jean! Not many others worth standing with.

  • Isabel Matos

    I have had enough of Voter Denial!! I thank you for having shared your feedback on my comments yesterday.  I decided to put my thoughts in one blog post.

    I expect to get a lot of heat from GOP Voters who don’t understand what is going on in our party. We elect representatives to speak up for us in DC and are afraid to do so because they fear that if they do not fall in line with Speaker Boehner they will be punished or marginilized. 

    I know I’m speaking to the Choir, but how are we to clean up a party if we don’t stop making excuses for "Our Own". This is sad.


    • n4cerinc

      Thanks for sharing. I have tweeted your blog post.

    • Christopher H Fromme

      Saw on your blog that Louie Gohmert voted for Col. Allen West.  When I was in DC I told his staff that conservatives nationwide him supported on many issues including gun rights and that he had the principals to go against Boehner.  

  • cudaforever

    I’ll take Houston, Green Bay, Indy, Redskins and ‘Bama !!



      As long as the Packers lose, I’ll be happy. :)

      • cudaforever

        Ten, You’re a Viking Fan ? or just a packer hater ? :)

        • TENCOLE

           A die-hard Bears fan….’nuff said :)

          • Polarbearpapa

            My picks…GB,Seattle, Ravens, Houston…

            But then….I am a hockey what do I know… 

      • wodiej

        I think you mean lose not loose.

        • TENCOLE


  • 1776er

    Y’all should take a look at Ann Barnhardt’s take on assault weapons.

    You can see a picture of St. Paul wielding an assault weapon at the Vatican on her site linked below:

    That’s an AR-15 he’s holding isn’t it?

    Here is a picture of Ann with her personalized pink AR-15. Goes with her outfit.

    Note the motto Molon Labe inscribed on the stock.

    Ann is one of a kind.

  • golfmom3

    We are not alone.  We need to find our friends and stretch this movement to include the full 70% of eligible voters who did not vote for Obama.

    Includes a great riff by The Great One, Mark Levin.

    • Guest

       Thanks for posting. Loved the "Al-TeeVeera." I am definitely stealing that.

      Have a great weekend.

      Go Irish!

  • technopeasant

    10 random facts about this week’s playoffs which are definitely counterintuitive or at least give one pause to question the odds on the games posted on the 4 games this weekend:
    a) Over the past 4 weeks Vikings QB Christian Ponder had the second best QBR (86.8) (a ESPN passing performance stat measuring QB performance but including the QB running with the ball, QB rushing TD’s and fumbling) in the NFL, only next to Peyton Manning.
    In addition in last week’s game againtt the Packers it was 94.6. The maximum is 100.
    By the way in their past 4 games where the Vikings had to win all four to get into the playoffs, 3 of the 4 teams had winning records which even makes Ponder’s numbers that more impressive.
    b) Although Andrew Luck has been criticized for turning the ball over too often in his rookie season (23 times–18 picks and 5 fumbles) he has 0 turnovers in his last 3 games (0 picks, 0 fumbles lost).
    c) Although there is a tremendous disparity in turnover ratio between the Colts and the Ravens over the season (-12 vs. +9 for a difference of 21) in the past four games the Ravens have been -4 and the Colts have been +4 for a difference of 8.
    d) Other than the last game of the season where the Baltimore Ravens sat out a lot of their starters and did not really try to win the game, Andy Dalton of the Cincinnati Bengals in his past five games had not posted a quarterback passer rating above 76.1.
    And a lot of pundits believe Dalton and the Bengals will upset the Houston Texans. Not with that kind of mediocre QB play they won’t imho.
    e) The Washington Redskins are the #1 rushing offense in the NFL and are #5 overall in defensing the rush. And Robert Griffin III set a NFL rookie record by posting a 102.4 quarterback passer rating–a lethal combination imho. Yes the Redskins are 30th in yards yielded in the passing game but middle of the pack when it comes to defensive QB passer rating. By the way the Redskins have won 7 straight games.
    f) The Seattle Seahawks have lost once in their past once in their past 8 games, and that was when they had to fly across the country to face the mediocre Miami Dolphins. Now they have to fly across the country to face the Washington Redskins.
    g) Arian Foster in his first two playoff games set a NFL record for most yards rushed: 285 yards.
    h) The Indianapolis Colts are 20th in the NFL in defensive passer rating (90.1) for the season.
    But in their last four games it has been 72.7 which is equivalent to the best defenses in the NFL. 
    i) The Baltimore Ravens changed offensive coordinators after week 13 after a loss to the Washington Redskins. Surprisingly I have not heard one pundit this week refer to change as possibly detrimental to the Ravens chances to advance given there were several pundits a month ago speculating that the Ravens would be in further disarray with this move, which might jeopardize their playoff chances.
    j) The Seattle Seahawks have not won a playoff game on the road since 1983 against the Miami Dolphins and this also marks the last time the Seahawks have flown across the country to the East Coast (or South-east coast) and won on the road.
    Actually the Seahawks have lost 7 road playoff games in a row going back to 1983.

    • racefan3

      so  with these facts .. I’ll take the

      Vikings over the frozen cheese heads…brrrr its gonna be cold ..AP gonna run all over their AZZ!!
      Texans over the Bengals…..dalton will be pressured into mistakes all day Texans D will come to play..
      Colts over the Ravens … just because A little luck goes a long way… right Chuck..byebye Ray!!

      Skins over the Seahawks…althought I’m a buc fan and its tough sometimes..Skins have always
      been my #2 …go RG3 ..screw the the haters….parker that means you hope you lost your job you Jackwagon…’s that for a cause espn…Go Skins!!!

      ND rolls the Tide!!….go Irish!!…..

      ps I have no idea who’s gonna win ….just ask my bookie 15yrs ago..LOL


      • virginiagentleman1

        A belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Racefan! I hope you have been well. I’ve missed you little brother!  VG

        • racefan3

          Hi VG…..Happy New Year…I been well…working a lot for a lot less pay…had a great Christmas with my family thank you…Hope you too are doing well …I’ve been lurking  a lot keeping up to speed…I’ll  stop by  more often and say hi..hope you had an awesome Christmas with the Boss
          and the kids   Go Skins!!!

          • virginiagentleman1

            I was wondering where you’d been, Race. I’d see where you ‘liked’ a comment but you’ve posted rarely over the last few months. But it is great to have you back!

            The Boss and I had a wonderful Christmas! Our place was FULL! We had the largest grocery bill we’ve ever had!  On the good side of that, the Boss found LOTS of help to go shopping with her besides me!  WHEW!  I tried to convince the kids to stay longer so I wouldn’t have to go shopping for awhile, but no! They ran as if scaulded! lol The Boss can really wear a person down when she’s shopping!

            I’m looking forward to a Redskins victory for sure! Looks like Tim Tebow may be heading back to Florida as well. I wish that lad nothing but the best!

            Since you’ve been lurking in the background here, then you know my health is failing. I seem to have reached a point that I’m just not able to get past it. No more trips down to the hickory stump. Heck, I can barely get to the swing in the backyard. But on the 15th, I’ve got another echo scheduled followed by a visit with my cardiologist an hour later. Hopefully I’ll get some good news.

            Anyway, it is great to be able to talk with you again my dear friend!   VG

            • racefan3

              Glad you had a wonderful Christmas with your loved ones VG…I know that money was well spent enjoying  Christmas with your wonderfull family…Boss knows shopping!!

              Go Skins!!….Rg3 …good dude …military brat like myself have a lot of respect for the man as I do for Tebow…hope he gets a shot with the Jags….. drive Merrill Hodge nuts to see it!!

              Hoping and praying for good news too VG….yes I’m aware of your condition and the course you have chosen to take if that is stiil the course.
              I wish nothing but the best for you big brother I’m am proud and honored that you are my friend
              you are a true American Patriot and Warrior  may your last days hopefully years on this earth
              be peacefull and joyous down by the hickory stump you have earned it. God bless sir …


              • virginiagentleman1

                Dang! You brought me to tears! Thanks for your support my dear friend.  VG

                • racefan3

                  Your welcome big brother….hope we get good news…maybe we’ll have that drink after all

                  Go Skins!

  • narciso

    They did this in the worse way, because they didn’t want even a possibility that the vehicles could be resold

    • WilliamShipley

      As someone who’s idea of a ‘new’ car is a used one that isn’t as old as my current one, the cash for clunkers deal really annoyed me.  It gave people who COULD afford a new car money from the government to help buy it and destroyed their old car which was probably better than the one I am driving.  Now this comes out.

      • Polarbearpapa

        Remember …when dealing with the programs put forward by Lefties…

        "stupid is, as stupid does"

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