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Roger Ailes: Governor Palin represents ‘people who rose up against their own party’

Roger Ailes, the big boss over at FOX News gave a candid interview to the Hollywood Reporter.

Of course, they couldn’t resist asking him about his decision to hire Governor Palin back as a commentator.  His response had a little humor, but as I emphasize below describes why Governor Palin remains so popular with the little guys across the nation:

The only two people I knew who got worse press than her [Governor Palin] were Richard Nixon and George W. Bush — some of it unfairly, much of it unfair to her family. She’s recognizable, she’s attractive, and she still has the message of stop raising taxes. The Tea Party started as a group that [the government] could make go home to bake meatloaf at any point in the last three years by simply doing two things: Stop raising taxes and stop stealing their money. Congress can’t stop spending money. I’m not a defender of everything she says. I don’t hear everything she says. But I know she represents a certain group of people who rose up against their own party, which you rarely see.

To read more on the interview including his comments on some of the other FOX regulars, click here.

I cannot remember the negative press coverage of Richard Nixon since I was born around that time.  I do remember some of the coverage of George Bush and in terms of unfair and negative coverage, I will concede that his point is arguable yet still can’t recall the press trying to go through tens of thousands of his emails (or memos) as Governor of Texas or GWB having stalkers move in next to him to stare at his family while writing a book about him.

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  • JRD1

    The press only went after Nixon because he put Alger Hiss behind bars.

    • CBDenver

      That is true. The lefties never forgave Nixon for that.

    • socon

      Nixon was a statist anyway.

      • Laddie_Blah_Blah

        That is true. Nixon actually implemented wage and price controls. His administration created the bureaucratic monstrosity that we now know as the EPA. He originated affirmative action within the federal government.

        He was a hawk on foreign policy, and the Left never forgave him for that, but he was to the Left of JFK on everything else, including, arguably, foreign policy.

        • socon

          I am ashamed to see a Republican is responsible for the corrupt, lawless and menacing EPA.

          • Laddie_Blah_Blah

            Not his best moment, to say the least.

            • socon

              As far as I’m concerned, the Republican Party can rot in hell.

  • cbenoistd

    "Some of it unfairly" is weak, but he did get the big picture. McCain was a "maverick" because he wasn’t Bush; Palin is a pariah because she isn’t McCain. Funny how the press went through Christie’s aides’ e-mails, as reported today, and found the smoking gun they couldn’t find in Juneau after all the crowdsourcing.

  • MaMcGriz

    What’s that…..? Is that the sound of Roger Ailes making noises which suggest he knows the one an only reason I and millions of other Americans ever for one minute allow his airwaves in our homes is in fact Governor Sarah Palin?

    Does he sense that I and no doubt millions of other Americans are fed up to here with people telling us basically just to go to hell?

    • hrh40

      Well, if he really got that, she’d be on the air more.

      Nixon and Bush did NOT get worse press than her. They did not.

      So Ailes is Party Loyal weaksauce.

      • indemind

        Agree… totally!

      • lyndaaquarius

        considering what Bashir and Mike Tyson said re Gov. Palin,they did not.

        • socon

          What happened to a good and decent American woman like Sarah Palin changed my perception of my country forever. Shocked can’t begin to describe it.

          I will stand with Sarah Palin, by Sarah Palin and for Sarah Palin forever.

          • lyndaaquarius

            completely agree!

            • socon

              I ain’t kidding either. I would protect her with my life.

      • Laddie_Blah_Blah

        The press was easy on Bush compared to what it has done to Sarah Palin, but they smeared Richard Nixon for decades, starting in the early 50s and continuing the onslaught until the day he died.

        They have been at Sarah for only 5 years.

        Nixon admitted that he had let all the hate, for all those years, get to him, and said, essentially, that his biggest mistake was to respond in kind. That was, IMO, the most profound, honest, insightful self-assessment I have ever heard from an American politician. Whenever I think badly of Nixon I remember those words. It was his finest moment.

        Sarah is made of stronger stuff than Nixon was. I attribute that to her deeply held Christian faith, and the strong support she gets from her family, friends, and people like those who populate this thread.

        We have got her back, and we always will.

        • hope4palins

          I missed this dicussion two days ago, but I’m glad I ran across it now. I followed Nixon’s career since 1960, he was one of my personal heroes for years. You are the first person I’ve read who felt as I did about those remarks. He was always so tightly self-controlled in his public speeches (LBJ had a similar problem that way), but that impromptu farewell speech to his staff just before he and his family left the White House was profoundly moving. There is a tremendously poignant shot of Ben Stein (who worked for Nixon as had his father) sitting near the front, tears running down his cheeks. I agree with you.

          Something else that is not much remembered now is how Nixon’s death and funeral were received by the public. There was a huge outpouring of support which absolutely baffled his enemies, which I found incredibly moving.

          I also agree with you about Gov. Palin. I truly think that, whether she ever chooses to run for office again or not, she is already the Michael Jordan of politics in terms of talent and applied skills, and at 50 years old she still isn’t at the peak of her abilities. There is no one, iI repeat no one who even comes close. In the past I think only Reagan and FDR were in her talent universe, but in terms of the sheer amount of raw talent she stands alone imho. I just have a feeling that she is destined to become one of the most iconic figures in our history, a thought which she no doubt would swat away from her consciousness. That said, she is the quintessential example of the American Dream come true. Once the public at large sees that, the real Sarah Palin, the caricature of lies will finally disappear into their native nothingness. She has the potential to become one of the most iconic figures in our history, if that is what God calls her to do.

          Have her back? Those of us who could would gladly take a bullet for her, and I think that she knows that and is humbled by it. God bless her, God bless her beautiful family.

          Thank you for what you wrote. Here in the pre-dawn hours it was wonderful to read your words.

          • Laddie_Blah_Blah

            As usual, I agree with you in almost every particular, but I do not share your regard for FDR. Truman did far more for the USA in his 7 years than FDR did in his 13. Far more.

            People rarely speak of Truman as a great president, while usually listing FDR among the greatest. FDR’s domestic policies prolonged the depression. Truman’s policies ended the depression, finally, and led to a reawakening of the American economy in ways that FDR only talked about, but never delivered. And Truman did it with policies that were among the most cost-effective, if not THE most cost-effective, in the history of the USA, like the GI Bill, coupled with the most dramatic reduction in government spending in our history.

            FDR did not understand the menace that Soviet Stalinism represented for the US and Europe. Stalin actually achieved what had been Hitler’s main objective, i.e. establishing an empire in Eastern Europe, and FDR ratified Stalin’s new empire just after helping prevent Hitler’s similar ambitions.

            Truman’s Marshall Plan helped Europe regain its strength, and NATO, SEATO and other alliances established the USA’s containment policy that lasted for the duration of the Cold War. Truman also established the CIA and the NSA to project the USA’s security umbrella, world-wide. Those two agencies are now the most effective of their kind in the entire world.

            FDR helped establish the entitlement state, and has been revered by the Progressive Left, ever since. To my mind, he was, overall, a disaster. He actually ran against Hoover’s big government, big spending policies, and promised to restore fiscal discipline once he was in the WH, but we all know what he actually did once he obtained the seat of power.

            I know you spoke of political talent, and FDR certainly had the kind of talent that told people what he knew they wanted to hear. That is very, very similar to the sole talent possessed by the current incumbent in the WH.

            Nixon was a tragic figure of Shakespearean proportions. No one has done him justice, as yet. FDR has always been regarded as a kind of political icon, immune from a critical examination of his actual record, which was, IMO, dismal.

            Both FDR and Hitler came to power in 1933. By 1935, the German economy had left the Great Depression behind, for good, while in the USA FDR’s policies were prolonging the agony, which lasted until Harry Truman took over in 1945. The historians do not seem to have noticed.

            I know you were writing of FDR in another context, but I see his talents as those of a demagogue.

            "I just have a feeling that she is destined to become one of the most iconic figures in our history, a thought which she no doubt would swat away from her consciousness."

            And there is the crucial difference between a talented demagogue and a talented leader with a servant’s heart. If Sarah ever gets the chance, she will accomplish far more than FDR, and, perhaps, accomplish as much as HST actually did. And she will have to do it without the support of the establishment press, just as HST did.

            I can see her doing it, too.

            • hope4palins

              I understand your points and I agree with you about FDR. The reason I used his name was solely because of his political skills. It disgusts me that he used those skills the way a con man would. He’s one of the very few Presidents to be re-elected when the economy grew worse under their term. According to Levin (in "Liberty and Tyranny"), FDR did that by manipulating commodity prices to give the illusion that things were better. Since FDR, only Obama has gotten away with that trick, thanks to the LSM and the most wretched GOP Presidential campaign in 100 years imo. I blame FDR for our current poisonous, self-destructive, corrosive culture. Respectfully (and somewhat reluctantly) I believe that Levin is correct to actually blame TR and Wilson (mostly Wilson) for beginning the Statist tide in the country, but in my heart I still blame FDR. One point where Levin disagrees with you is that he quotes statistics that say that we pulled out of the Depression in ’43, NOT because of anything the flim-flam-man FDR did but because of the huge ramp up in production because of the War. Although to be honest I’m not as much of a fan of HST as you are, I agree totally with you that he was underrated. Also unfair is the criticism of his decision to use nuclear weapons to end the War with Japan. It’s my understanding that the Japanese actually suffered greater losses in the Fire Bombing of Tokyo than either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. It’s also my understanding that the fatality estimates for an invasion of the Japanese home islands were seven figures? There is no question in my mind that he made the right decision.

              As a diplomat FDR frankly sucked. Badly. He way overestimated the effect of his personal charm on a cold blooded Hitlerian monster like Stalin and gave away half of Europe to political slavery as a result. It would be almost 45 years before the team of Reagan, Thatcher, Walsea and the Pope freed those suffering millions. Part of that could be attributed to the fact that by the time of Yalta FDR was already a dying man as can be seen in the famous picture of that conference. It’s my understanding that Churchill tried to warn FDR about Stalin but got nowhere. As a domestic President it is hard to think of a worse one than FDR. It irritates me no end when he is placed in the pantheon of the great Presidents. He was a brilliant orator, a great CIC, a brilliant politician who was the Father of his Party’s dominance of American culture, but he was at the least also a power-hungry scoundrel who would do and say anything to acquire, hold onto, and exercise power. I believe that at his core what he wanted was for all Americans to look to him to solve all of their problems, to give him as much control over their lives as possible. The damage he did to legitimate Free-Market Capitalism based on the Judaeo-Christian ethic is incalculable and has continued unstopped for over 80 years now. You were right about my reasons for naming him. It was really hard to type those initials, but I was talking purely about the ability to communicate combined with the ability to achieve an agenda. Nixon was 50 times the diplomat of FDR, and Reagan was even better.

              In college, for a speech class assignment, I put forward the proposition that three of the 20th Century’s greatest orators all were in power at the same time: Hitler, FDR, and Churchill. I was careful to put it in terms of ability to move a crowd or a country, irrespective of moral values, and I still believe that the label fits all three within those limitations. Of those three, Hitler was a genocidal monster; FDR was a political scoundrel; only Churchill was a Statesman who at all times and in every way possible put the preservation of his Nation and the values of Freedom above all else, no matter the cost. It’s often said that Gov. Palin reminds some people of one of her heroes, Margaret Thatcher and I can see that; It’s just my opinion, but overall I think that Gov. Palin is the closest parallel in our country to Winston Churchill on many many levels.
              Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. I wanted you to know that whatever slight disagreement(s) we may have on that period of our history, we agree on how awful a President FDR was. If WWII by some miracle had never happened, I believe he would not be ranked very high at all because he did so much damage to this Republic, so much that I worry if it can ever be undone.

              • Laddie_Blah_Blah

                "Sorry for any confusion I may have caused."

                No need for that, at all. I took your points and understood their drift.

                I just had to have my 2 cents vis a vis FDR. Did you know that the Scandinavians ( I can’t remember if it was the Finns, or the Norwegians) managed to get their hands on a Soviet code book, and turned it over to the USA? When FDR was shown that book, he ordered that it immediately be turned back over to the Soviet ambassador to the USA. I read about that in the Mitrokhin papers, not in any US source material. I can only imagine the look on the face of the Soviet ambassador as he took back a book that may have helped the OSS (and, later, the CIA – NSA) to decode the Venona papers, over 60% of which remain un-decrypted, to this day.

                I will have to disagree with Levin about the US economy during the war years. Production was way up, of course, because FDR realized that he was an economic incompetent who could not run an industrial economy. So he reallocated precious US capital away from the state and turned it back over to the industrialist entrepreneurs who knew what to do with it.

                Nevertheless, the lives of Americans hardly improved during the war and, arguably, was even worse than before.

                There were shortages of everything. You could not buy a new car, and even if you had an old one, gasoline was severely rationed, so you could not go anywhere, regardless. Meat and eggs were scarce, butter non-existent. Metal was reserved for the production of war machinery and ammo. Hardly any was left over for production of domestic goods. If people really needed something, most of them just had to make do with whatever they had.

                Women took the jobs for which men were no longer available, but they were virtually all low paying, dead-end positions, requiring long hours at work.

                The unemployment problem was solved, but only at the cost of waging a war that cost hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded American combatants.

                If you look at the rate of production in isolation, then the economy improved in 1943.

                But if you look at the lives almost all Americans led during the war years, then 1943 was a continuation of depression-era deprivation, chronic shortages, and hardship, compounded by wartime dead and wounded sons, brothers and fathers, none of which ended until the war did. The war did not end the Great Depression: it merely changed its nature in the USA.

                Economics is about more than the production of industrial goods. Levin knows that, I am certain. The Soviet Union regularly published industrial production numbers for goods that Soviet citizens either never saw, or could not use (i.e. poorly made shoes that did not fit, and which wore out very quickly).

                And about all you can say regarding FDR’s contribution to the increase in wartime production is that he finally got out of the way and let better men than he do their jobs.

                Yes, he was an inspirational wartime leader, and no one can deny him that, or minimize its importance.

                But Stalin was even more inspirational for the Russians, and even more incompetent, as he substituted his own simple-minded military strategic and tactical thinking for that of his generals, with millions of his Red Army troops and millions more Soviet citizens losing their lives as a result. It wasn’t until late in the war that he simply, and finally, let Zhukov call the shots, with devastating results for the Wehrmacht in Russia.

                I could go on and on about WWII and its main actors in the European theater, Churchill, Stalin, Hitler and FDR. Hitler had numerous chances to win that war, and blew them all. The allies were lucky that an egomaniacal madman was their chief antagonist, while also being one of their chief, albeit unwitting, assets. It was all awful, but it could have been even worse. But it also could have ended much, much better than it did.

                • hope4palins

                  I learned a lot from this post, thank you so much.

                  Now that I think about it, both you and Levin may be right. I remember now that Levin was focusing on unemployment numbers. Given his usual careful scholarship I may have simply misread him. I completely agree with you about the shortages, etc. It was a time of wage and price controls, a hideous system that Navy Veteran Nixon would revive briefly in the 1970’s; it failed then, too. I’m an old car freak and am aware of how difficult and distorted the economy was during the War in terms of consumer goods, and the sudden explosion in growth afterwards. After the war, Auto Manufacturers could (and did) do a huge business with "new" cars that were just warmed over versions of pre-war or of the few ’42 models that were (very briefly) available. When the seller’s market evaporated a few years later, manufacturers like Studebaker and Packard were ill-prepared for the buyer’s market that followed and failed to survive.

                  Your story about the codebook I hadn’t heard, but I’m not surprised. Imo because of his arrogance (we had to wait for the rise of the Kennedy brothers before we would see it’s like again) FDR was incredibly naïve when it came to diplomacy. In my harsher moments I would say intellectually blind, even stupid.

                  I remember my surprise when I learned how much the Soviets and us needed each other in WWII. There is a story that the Russians have single cemeteries that have more dead in them from that War then what we lost in both Theaters combined. At the same time they probably could not have stopped Hitler if he hadn’t been forced to deal with our entry into the War.

                  Many years ago my parents had me read a book titled "A Man Called Intrepid" that I found riveting, about the breaking of the German codes, how FDR always saw Hitler as the foremost enemy and how close the Germans came to having an atomic bomb. I’ve long since forgotten the author and I know nothing about the scholarship of the book but it gave me a view of the War that I hadn’t had before. In subsequent years I’ve read material that showed just how close we came to losing. I’ve come to believe that if Hitler had been bright enough to hold onto his alliance with Stalin for a few months longer, maybe a year at most, he would have conquered all of Europe including Britain, at which time he could then have pivoted and crushed the Soviet Union, bringing an evil Reign of Darkness and Terror over all of Western Civilization for who knows how long.

                  Sometimes arrogance and stupidity can be useful tools when it’s your enemy that’s exercising them. It hurts like H-ll though when you see it in your own country: FDR throwing away half of a continent and planting the seeds of social, economic, and cultural ruin and decay; JFK’s failed Vienna summit that emboldened Khruschev; Carter’s anti-Semitic fondness for the current wannabe Hitlers in the middle East; Obama’s almost endless list of mistakes and outright attempts to simply throw away our hard won control of the Atlantic and Pacific; helping the Chinese to establish themselves as the dominant economic and military power of the 21st Century. There is so much damage that has been done by the Statists. Republicans like Eisenhower and Nixon who by throwing away chances to try to build sentiment to reverse the monstrosity that FDR had unleashed and to thereby break the stranglehold on the culture that he and his Party have had since the 30’s have been enablers of the Democrat Statists imo.

                  On my bad days I am almost convinced that it’s over, it’s too late to "get it back" as it were. Then I remember how for the first six months of WWII we lost every battle we were engaged in on both fronts, literally thousands of lives were lost, and yet somehow, we didn’t give up. And because, like our Brit cousins and the also the Russians, we refused to give up and surrender to what seemed inevitable, one of the most monstrous of the Statist tyrannies was defeated. I think that it’s possible that we can do it again, but it will be a huge effort against very formidable odds. I have no way of knowing what Gov. Palin’s future will be, but I do believe that she will play an enormous part in that struggle, either in or out of office. Her talents and abilities are still not at their peak, and she has the intelligence to use what she has to the maximum effect. She is like a "force multiplier" politically. If I can see that, her enemies can also, and that’s why I worry for her physical safety. I thank God that we have such a huge talent as hers on our side; the degree of personal, violent hatred for her is very real and very dangerous. She has incredible courage because I’m sure that she is aware of how dangerous she is to the forces of Statism; as we’ve seen in the past, those forces can be manifested in very violent ways.

                  I can’t thank you enough for responding. I learned quite a bit from reading these recent posts of yours, and I always look forward to your take on what is going on now. If you have ever heard of that book "A Man Called Intrepid" I’d very much appreciate reading your opinion on it, as I was fairly young when I read it. I still remember in a Jr. High School History class (during the JFK years) when I said out loud that Hitler was a military genius because of how close he came to conquering all of Europe. The reaction from other students kept my head down for a very long time. It took years for me to realize that I was simply looking at the scope of the speed of his military victories; at the same time I saw the pictures of Auschwitz; my closest friends at that period were Jewish so I knew what a hideous monster he was, but I also knew that we were all so fortunate for his strategic mistakes. That War was his to win and he, whether from the ravages of syphilis (as I once read) or just ego-fed arrogance that made him strategically stupid, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. In our own political culture the gopE over the past 30-40 years have done that over and over and over again imo. Probably for the same reasons of arrogance/stupidity, the Rovians want to continue that pattern. Count me out.

                  Thanks again.

                  • Laddie_Blah_Blah

                    I have never read "Intrepid," but I have read reams of material on intelligence activities, including many on WWII.

                    Stalin had multiple agents working for him in the USA, including Harry Dexter White, Alger Hiss, Lauchlin Currie (a member of FDR’s WH staff), among many, many others. I have always thought how curious it was that the sitting VP of the US, Harry Truman, never even heard of the Manhattan Project until just after he was sworn in as FDR’s replacement.

                    Stalin not only knew of it, he had 3 of his operatives (Klaus Fuchs, David Greenglass, and Ted Hall) helping to design, engineer, and build Fat Man and Little Boy! He was better informed on the progress of the Manhattan Project than FDR, and was not surprised when Truman informed him of their existence just weeks before Hiroshima.

                    Hitler ran some brilliant operations, too. When George VI died, Stalin sent Marshall Tokashevsky to represent him at the funeral in Great Britain.

                    • hope4palins

                      Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for going to all the trouble of sharing that.

                    • Laddie_Blah_Blah

                      The more people know, the better. Share it with anyone who wants to know the truth.

            • lyndaaquarius

              so many similarities between Governor Palin and President Truman.Guts,smarts,honor and confidence.I remember from the biography "Truman",that as an eleven year old farm boy,Harry Truman held the kerosene lamp for the doctor as he performed an emergency appendectomy on his mother. She was spread out on the kitchen table with whiskey as a pain killer. The author cited this as an example of Truman’s early strength. Sarah Palin has that same strength. She’s written about how her dad made her hold the moose’s eyeballs in her hand when they skinned it.American frontier strength.Truman did what had to be done with no handwringing.Sarah Palin would approach and carry out what must be done in the same way.President Truman was proudest that as a Captain in the Battle of Verdun in WWI, he didn’t lose a single man in his Battery D.No slimy political crap like Benghazi. Sarah Palin’s administration would be one of the finest in our country’s history.

              • Laddie_Blah_Blah

                Agreed. When HST and Bess left the WH, they packed their car with their belongings and Harry drove them back home to Missouri. No Secret Service entourage, no Air Force One, no fuss, no muss, no big deal.

                He was a man of the people, was not loved by the establishment press, had no college pedigree (he never attended college), and he spoke plainly and honestly. He wasn’t always right, but when he was wrong, he never passed the buck.

                He was one of the few who left the WH without having made a fortune. He was so humble, that he offered to forego a 2nd term if Ike would run as the Dem candidate in 1948. How many sitting presidents would voluntarily relinquish power so another man could serve in his place?

                Harry was unique in so many ways. Reminds me of Sarah, for sure. I am afraid that Sarah is so similar that she will forego a run in 2016 to unite the Tea Party behind Ted Cruz, because a reformer is so badly needed, and she doesn’t think it has to be her. Wouldn’t surprise me, a bit.

                • lyndaaquarius

                  David McCullogh’s "Truman" won a Pulitzer and it’s a can’t put down bio. Lots of parallels to Alaska’s former Governor.What a great comfort it’ll be to have a President who isn’t sneaking and sliming around to "get over" on his opponents and on the citizens.Chicago politics have noplace in our White House.It would be so wonderful for all Americans to have Mrs. Palin as our Commander-in-Chief.

                  • Laddie_Blah_Blah

                    "Truman" has been on my bookshelf for about 3 months, now, but I haven’t read it just yet. It’s on my list for this year.

  • happymullah

    Is this interview a pre-emptive strike?
    There’s a book coming out in a couple of months that paints a very unflattering picture of Ailes written by his former assistant.
    As re Sarah Palin he said he hopes she continues to speak her mind.
    What’s intriguing is that Fox negotiations with Sarah for her to come back lasted several weeks. Apparently she was holding out for a better deal. She had leverage because Ailes couldn’t afford to lose her to other networks. That would be a blow to his prestige as well as his ego.

  • Founders1791

    The press treated Richard Nixon 10 times better than George W Bush and 100x better than Governor Palin.

    "…You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life…" - Winston Churchill

    Never has a there been such vicious and personal attacks for so long as there has against this mother from Alaska.

    "…Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away…"
    - Corinthians 13:4-8

    The saving grace contained in their hurtful passions is they speak an
    unvarnished truth for the need of a safe harbor from the stormy seas of mistrust and inadequacies their present affiliations have left unfulfilled.

  • cbenoistd

    It’s dangerous to get into "who got treated worse" because that’s an invitation to a pity party. Nixon and Bush were both Presidents who won re-election and probably got more sheer volume in insults thrown at them. But no one tried to bankrupt Nixon or Bush. Where most see a Down’s syndrome child in a family as a challenge, Obama’s thugs saw an opportunity. Even Ailes won’t acknowledge that.

  • 1776er

    The only two people I knew who got worse press than her [Governor Palin] were Richard Nixon and George W. Bush — some of it unfairly, much of it unfair to her family.
    —-What did Roger do to defend her unfair treatment and her family’s unfair treament? Not much. Not much at all. Let her swing along with the rest of the RINOs.

    She’s recognizable, she’s attractive, and she still has the message of stop raising taxes.
    —-Roger apparently agrees with RINOs that this basic Conservative message is a loser with voters. It’s not just stop raising taxes. Cut taxes. RINOs and Roger are terrified that they will be viewed as pro-rich anti-poor mean hearts who just want the poor to starve to death. He can’t believe that Sarah has the moxy and the talent to utter this "loser" philosophy out loud.

    The Tea Party started as a group that [the government] could make go home to bake meatloaf at any point in the last three years by simply doing two things: Stop raising taxes and stop stealing their money. Congress can’t stop spending money.
    —Bake meatloaf? Condescending and ignorant. Congress can’t stop spending money. It would mean their whole vote getting model would come crashing down around their ears. He is no advocate of "stop spending money". It would put his pals in the GOP RINO PPC at risk of losing their precious seats in Congress. So, Roger the Dodger, how are you going to stop stealing the average Middle American’s money if you are too cowardly to advocate cutting taxes? This guy is brilliant?

    I’m not a defender of everything she says. I don’t hear everything she says. But I know she represents a certain group of people who rose up against their own party, which you rarely see.

    — A certain group of people? A certain group of People!!! Hey Rog, try millions and millions and millions of fed up Middle Americans. Fed up to the eyeballs with Marxist Democrat and RINO Transformer Spineless Republicans who talk out of both sides of their mouths and who will toss principle overboard every time they think the LSM will call them names. Night before recess Republicans. Stab Middle America in the back at midnight before Congress goes home RINO Republicans. "A Certain Group" finds that a smidgen unacceptable? Golly. Whoda thunk, Rog?

    Get outta the way Roger Ailes. A Certain Group, the ACG, of Middle Americans is going to roll over you and your RINO spineless friends. More and more eyes are opening to the true Transformer Nature of both political parties. And the stink coming from Washington is getting worse and worse. You can’t hide it from America any longer.

    • cbenoistd

      Ailes’ meatloaf does goes well with Hilary’s "cookies" from 1992.

      • dmac8889

        Nothing can define him as a Elitist Snob better than that comment.

    • Budvarakbar

      Most of Fox evening has developed into crap — it got so that the only thing to watch was Greta and then Megan has turned out fine — she crams some of the libs BS crap back down their throats — I usually have the sound off — walk by a few times an hour – hardly ever turn sound back on — I am so sick of Juan and Skeletor, Krautie and rove I could puke — even Beckel is a step up – but the sound stays off. BO’R and hannutty both have the same scam — talk a good tough line re something – then bring in the store-bought astroturf lib and a token ‘conservative’ for a ‘discussion’ – that rapidly descends into a shouting match – that isn’t even an argument — all talking over each other and interrupting each other like a bunch of 5 year olds. Way to make the ‘conservative’ side look intelligent. Roger dodger is helping rove’s agenda big time.
      On the West Coast now – Greta is on at 4 PM and 11 PM — the other three are on twice in between.

      • 1776er

        Agree about FOX. Hardly watchable anymore. Best thing that has happened to FOX in years is the disappearance of Shep Smith. Why can’t Ailes make the rest of them disappear?

        • socon

          I haven’t watched them in weeks. I hate FOX now. lol

  • blackbird

    imho Ailes in a heart beat would like to think he can throw the Governor into the polar vortex. They all now know they underestimated the Governor and her support. Truth has no agenda.

  • Quiet_Righty

    Ailes says he wanted “to piss off the people that wanted her dead." That’s a bit coarse and it sounds like a joke. But it is the truth. He correctly describes the feelings of many on the Left. Fortunately, most of the haters are know-nothing Obama zombies, armed only with Twitter and the f-word.

    • dmac8889

      Not only from the LEFT. In fact most intensely from the Republican leadership. Emotions that go back to Palin taking down Reudrich, Murkowski, & and even college roommate at Yale-Tony Knowles all had close ties to the Bush Family, which runs the GOP. Palin had sharp words with Cheney over her negotiations with Big Oil, as Governor. McCain picking her PISS-OFFED the White House, so they invaded his campaign staff. Some of these people were Hillary supporters.

      • socon


        • dmac8889

          All on the internet in their own words, or others commenting.

          • socon

            You’re astute. You’ve got skillz.

  • planetes

    I have seen a lot of heathen, vile, pagan, anti-Christian, true HATE come from a lot of worldlings over the years. In all my experience, only Jesus Christ gets more hate mail than Sarah Palin. They love the darkness. We keep flicking on the light and the creepy crawlies are tired of hiding.

    It is likely that they should all be thanking us. If not for those of us who pray for them and love them, they probably would have been wiped off the face of this place a long time ago.

  • carolhaka

    She’s back for one reason – she is the biggest draw any channel has! So suck it Ailes.

  • dmac8889

    Well I was around and old enough to remember Nixon’s Press Coverage. There was no FoxNews back then obviously. None within the same political affiliation was attacking Nixon. Obviously the same with Bush, because FoxNews is the extension of the Bush run GOP. What has happen to Sarah Palin has never happened at anytime. I have never seen a major Network use ANONYMOUS SOURCES on their most popular newscast (BOR-Factor) to attack a high ranking politician on a personal level. The reason this happened is because FoxNews has too close a relationship with the leadership of the GOP. Relationships that go back decades.

    Sarah Palin taking on the Republican leadership in Alaska was never forgiven. In fact, after McCain waited all summer of 2008 to pick Palin as his running mate, this was taken in the White House by those closest to Bush, and Bush himself as McCain being SPITEFUL. What took place around that election with the take down of Lehman Brothers, and thus the collapse of the Financial Markets, give skepticism to the control of the results of that election. McCain clearly became the outsider in his own Party, as Obama demonstrated his close relationship with Hank Paulson (Bush’s Treasury Secretary), who of course orchestrated the Financial Collapse/Political rescue.

    The only reason there is any connection between Palin and Ailes is because Sarah Palin draws an audience like no other politician, and that audience was one the Republican party counted on keeping their mouth shut and just line up and vote for the GOP come election day. That day is over, and Sarah Palin is the spokesperson for this Awakening. Ailes is an employee of Murdoch, and the bottom line is money. Palin keeps it coming. Ailes let everyone at the Network how much he disliked her (he didn’t hire her – Murdoch did), and when it came time to renegotiate her contract, he made it impossible for her to accept. Only after their ratings tanked, that he had to swallow his pride and rehire her.

    • Steve_Flesher

      Thanks for sharing that! I figured as much. :)

  • cudaforever

    To me Ailes seems like a very arrogant person. Sort of like a BOR in the boardroom.

    • socon

      Piggish, too.

  • hope4palins

    Imho you have to go back to the time of Lincoln to see anything even close (he was portrayed as a Gorilla in a newspaper cartoon I believe). I’ve been watching Presidential politics for more than a half century, and there is NO one, I repeat NO ONE who has been attacked the way she has been. Ailes had a huge role in the resurrection of Nixon’s political career; he was also one of Rush’s early broadcast partners (who Rush later bought out) when Rush first went to National. Clearly he has an eye for talent and an ability to make a good living; if this interview is any indication as to his knowledge of political history, his elevator stops about three stories from the top floor on that subject.

    • socon

      Great post.

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